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What is and isn't murder has nothing to do with what is and isn't legal.
No. What is and isn't killing is objective.
Murder is legally defined, to the point that there are degrees of murder.

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Is it illegal to step on an ant? Is that murder?
No and no. Not in America.

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By any scientific definition of "life", a fetus counts. Aborting that fetus ends its life. How are you defining murder if not as "the deliberate ending of life"
There are many "scientific definitions" of life, and all of them bear some controversy.

If you believe that, then I expect you to be protesting abortion clinics on a regular basis. If you believe there's a building near you where people regularly murder babies and you're not totally bent out of shape over that, then I don't understand your position.

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the question isn't really about whether or not it's murder. Pro-choice people don't really seem to care (I am an example). The question is about whether or not the mother has the right to commit that murder.
I like Louis CK's take on abortion. It's either murder, or it's taking a shit. Either you're killing a baby, or you're simply discarding an unwanted thing that was in your body.