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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Again, superiority. Based on race.
    That's pretty much the very definition of racism.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    That's pretty much the very definition of racism.
    Yes, that's my point. This isn't what Trump did, unless you wish to guess his motive. I'm guessing his motive too, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt where the motive is not obvious. I'm assuming his motive was to insult an individual. You're assuming his motive is to insult a race of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yes, that's my point. This isn't what Trump did, unless you wish to guess his motive. I'm guessing his motive too, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt where the motive is not obvious. I'm assuming his motive was to insult an individual. You're assuming his motive is to insult a race of people.
    So if someone calls a person by a racist slur they're not being racist they're just being mean to that one person. Not sure about that.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So if someone calls a person by a racist slur they're not being racist they're just being mean to that one person. Not sure about that.
    Well then you're not sure about the definition of racism.

    If I call a Chinese person a Chinky, well I'm not being racist because I consider the Chinese to be a wonderful race of people, I certainly do not believe that white people are superior to Chinese. So by definition, I am not being racist. However, people assume it's racist because people assume racism is simply saying mean things.

    This is what I mean about the word "racism" being diluted from its original meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well then you're not sure about the definition of racism.
    Pot/Kettle situation brewing here.

    If I call a Chinese person a Chinky,
    C'mon, you can do better

    well I'm not being racist because I consider the Chinese to be a wonderful race of people, I certainly do not believe that white people are superior to Chinese. So by definition, I am not being racist. However, people assume it's racist because people assume racism is simply saying mean things
    If you and your Chinese friend have a rapport that allows you to use insensitive language with each other when you're alone, then great. You call him chinky, he calls you soccer-pussy, it's all in good fun. But if other people, who aren't in on your little joke, hear you use the word "chinky" then you had better believe it is racist.

    This is what I mean about the word "racism" being diluted from its original meaning.
    Nah, it pretty much means the same thing. You're saying that it's more important to have your little inside joke, than it is to avoid insulting the dignity of of anyone with east asian facial features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Nah, it pretty much means the same thing. You're saying that it's more important to have your little inside joke, than it is to avoid insulting the dignity of of anyone with east asian facial features.
    Exactly.

    Just because you might enjoy the irony of using racist language about a group against which you hold no attitude of superiority regarding, doesn't change the fact that you're using racist language and thus, being racist.

    An analogy is if you get in an argument with your friend, and it gets really heated. You pull out a gun and decide to fire a warning shot over his head so he'll shut up. But oops, your aim is bad and you kill him. Do you think you should get away with that because you didn't really hate your friend or intend to harm him?
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    Not sure what you mean by "get away with it."

    It's not murder, since the killing was an accident, but it was certainly some kind of reckless endangerment or manslaughter, regardless.

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