*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

If he did say it, how in the world do you know it is because of some deep stereotyping sentiment? It couldn't be that the pagent lady was shirking her duties and staying at home?

You're treading into Kellyanne Conway truth-spinning here.

A better question to ask is if you do say this, how can it NOT be construed as racist?

[wufwugy]

A better question to ask is if you do say this, how can it NOT be construed as racist?

Because insulting somebody you personally know in a way that can be correlated with something related to race is not evidence of racism? The hilarious thing is that even on this board there is debate about whether it is racist or sexist? Which is it? Which prejudicial label du jour are we gonna pull out of our asses to explain something on which we have low information?

Rigor is great.

[BananaStand]

A better question to ask is if you do say this, how can it NOT be construed as racist?

Because appropriating stereotypes for humorous purposes is not racist. It may be vulgar. It may be insensitive. It may be uncouth. But it is certainly not convincing evidence of a predisposition of hatred, or perception of inferiority, toward any particular race or group of people.

It's clear that minorities in this country are struggling. And if you're very sensitive to that struggle, then you don't say things that perpetuate, or cultivate negative racial stereotypes. If you're less sensitive to that struggle, then maybe you take liberties and crack a few jokes. And while both viewpoints are probably perfectly acceptable in the day to day discourse of the average person, one of those viewpoints is strongly preferred for someone who aims to be POTUS.

We can split hairs about the Ms Housekeeping comment. What did he mean? Who did he say it to? etc etc etc. Or we could move on from that and talk about how he stereotyped the "so-called judge" who was to preside over some lawsuit that I've already forgotten. Trump presumed that the guy was Mexican just because he had a spanish sounding last name.

He actually stood in front of a crowd of people and claimed that this judge couldn't be fair because he has an ethnic lineage that clashes with Trump's aggressive immigration policies. And he didn't even know the guy...

And maybe you've got a dozen 3-d chess related excuses for that one. If so, we can move on to the next incident. The point is there are TOO MANY incidents for them all to be completely innocent.

Yes, I agree that there is more than just a liberal-bias in the media. There is an active agenda to destroy the man and remove him from office. Part of that agenda is blowing up minor misunderstandings into sensational scandals. But it can't be ALL lies.

[wufwugy]

It's clear that minorities in this country are struggling.

It is? Jews are struggling? Filipinos? Chinese? Irish? Italians?

No, the struggling groups are those that have been targeted by race-baiters who trade welfare and victimology for votes.

[BananaStand]

It is? Jews are struggling? Filipinos? Chinese? Irish? Italians?

No, the struggling groups are those that have been targeted by race-baiters who trade welfare and victimology for votes.

So then we agree, these groups are clearly struggling. The root cause of that struggle is a topic for another thread.

My only point here is that you would have to be delusional to deny that black and latino populations are dis-proportionally affected by poverty. So taunting one of them for having a menial job is kinda mean.

[Poopadoop]

Because appropriating stereotypes for humorous purposes is not racist.

It absolutely is. It's just not on the same level as (say) firing someone for being hispanic or kicking them in the shin for being hispanic.

[OngBonga]

It absolutely is. It's just not on the same level as (say) firing someone for being hispanic or kicking them in the shin for being hispanic.

Nope. This just goes to show how much the term "racism" has been diluted over the years. People don't even know what it means anymore.

Key word - "superior".

[Poopadoop]

Nope. This just goes to show how much the term "racism" has been diluted over the years. People don't even know what it means anymore.

Key word - "superior".

you're point being that referring to someone as having a place in society where they hold a menial job is not acting in a superior manner?

[OngBonga]

you're point being that referring to someone as having a place in society where they hold a menial job is not acting in a superior manner?

You're making the assumption that this is Trump's motive, and you're doing so to justify your charge of racism.

Best I can tell, he was insulting her. He probably does think he is superior to her... on a personal level. Like, he probably thinks he's superior to most people, since he's a highly successful businessman turned President.

That's arrogance, not racism. If he holds this view towards all Hispanic people, regardless of thier actual place in society, then yes he's being racist. Does he hold this view? That is not clear based on the facts. So you're jumping to conclusions in an effort to charge Trump with a more serious accusation than simple arrogance.

[Poopadoop]

You're making the assumption that this is Trump's motive, and you're doing so to justify your charge of racism.

Best I can tell, he was insulting her. He probably does think he is superior to her... on a personal level. Like, he probably thinks he's superior to most people, since he's a highly successful businessman turned President.

That's arrogance, not racism. If he holds this view towards all Hispanic people, regardless of thier actual place in society, then yes he's being racist. Does he hold this view? That is not clear based on the facts. So you're jumping to conclusions in an effort to charge Trump with a more serious accusation than simple arrogance.

No, you're trying to find a loophole whereby calling a hispanic woman Ms. Housekeeping isn't racist, but something else.

But obviously there's only one way to interpret that insult, just like there's only one way to interpret Mr. Petrol Station.