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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
"Miss Househeeping" kind of assumes a stereotypical gender role for a not-so-bright woman.
Then you've never been to America. It seems like almost every cleaning lady is hispanic, every porter or doorman is black. Not that it's any better here.
And if what you say is correct about not-so-bright, there's a racist overtone suggesting hispanics are dumb.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't really see how it relates to race. I suppose in USA Hispanic people are more likely to work as a housekeeper, so I can see an element of casual racism, but not nearly enough to cry about. Imagine if Winston Churchill were still alive today. He was savage when he insulted people. When accused of being drunk by a lady, he replies "You are ugly, but in the morning I'll be sober". And this guy is widely considered our greatest ever leader.
Different times, different values. And I'm pretty sure his status is based pretty much entirely on his ability to inspire people in troubled times and lead the country against an evil power; it's got nothing to do with the fact he insulted a woman's appearance, or strongly believed in Empire, or was a manic-depressive.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Plenty of other cases of marginal complaints that require one to be easily offended in order to take offence. Making such a comment in an attempt to insult a lady one holds in contempt is a million miles away from white power. This is why the charge of racism has become diluted. Actual racists who have views of superiority and people who say mean things are being clumped together. They are not the same kind of people.
I agree it's way down the rankings on offensiveness. But, the problem isn't that such comments are on an equal basis with shouting white power, the problem is they shouldn't be in one's repertoire at all, particularly if they want to stand at the head of a country.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I would consider it a little inappropriate, however it's a great deal better than calling him a Paki. And Prince Philip is a bugger for this... he's regularly saying mildly racist things that made most people scream "you can't say that". Is he an actual racist? I dunno, but I'm not going to say he is based on sloppy language and childlike humour.
Ya, but Prince Philip is about 130 years old. You might as well try to get your grandpa to stop saying racist things. Back in his day, being racist was the standard. He's also not in any real position of authority and so it's more like he's a symbol of a bygone age mixed in with a lack of self-control than he is a symbol of what our country is today.
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