The Wall

[JKDS]

Many more deaths are from liver failure, stroke, heart failure and other related diseases that occur as a consequence of alcoholism.

Are you suggesting that overusing meth, heroin, or cocaine doesnt have similar effects?

It seems that the argument is now this

A) Provided that we know what the drug is, and we control the dose appropriately, the dangers are minimal.

Im not sure I agree with "minimal". But I'll give you that one of the reasons for high OD rates is the unknown strength of the drug as well as the random chance that its laced with something like fentanyl.

[OngBonga]

Are you suggesting that overusing meth, heroin, or cocaine doesnt have similar effects?

I think you'll struggle to find an honest study on the matter.

Certainly, people who inject heroin will die younger, on average, compared to those who don't. People with a coke habit, they don't tend to live long and healthy lives either. Meth, it's not something I have any experience with other than watching Breaking Bad, but obviously that has long term effects too, again, especially if injecting it.

Obviously, taking hard drugs regularly negatively impacts upon your health. I'm not suggesting it doesn't. I'm suggesting that the long term effects of alcohol are on a par, perhaps worse, perhaps not quite so bad, as hard drugs, but alcohol is more dangerous because it is so widespread and culturally ingrained in our everyday lives.