The Wall

[JKDS]

@MMM: about 20% of my paycheck is eaten by the federal and state government. On top of that, I pay sales tax. Illegal immigrants, who get paid under the table, don't get owned by that 20% figure.

What I mean by public services is that police, courts, jails, firefighters, etc art free. They're paid for via taxes. Their workload is also directly tied to population size, and their funding is tied to tax payers.

The more illegals who don't contribute, the greater the tax burden is on lawful tax payers.

The cost of enforcing immigration laws is also directly tied to the ease of getting here.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@MMM: about 20% of my paycheck is eaten by the federal and state government. On top of that, I pay sales tax. Illegal immigrants, who get paid under the table, don't get owned by that 20% figure.

What I mean by public services is that police, courts, jails, firefighters, etc art free. They're paid for via taxes. Their workload is also directly tied to population size, and their funding is tied to tax payers.

The more illegals who don't contribute, the greater the tax burden is on lawful tax payers.

The cost of enforcing immigration laws is also directly tied to the ease of getting here.

I'm in full agreement that there's a problem, here.

As I understand it, that 20% is significant, and while illegal immigrants have access to some services, they do not have access to most services.

Unless you're willing to inject data, here, we can only cite that they pay some taxes, but not all taxes, and that they have access to some public services, but not all.
Whether or not this amounts to a net gain or net loss to the state has not been demonstrated.

[JKDS]

I'm in full agreement that there's a problem, here.

As I understand it, that 20% is significant, and while illegal immigrants have access to some services, they do not have access to most services.

Unless you're willing to inject data, here, we can only cite that they pay some taxes, but not all taxes, and that they have access to some public services, but not all.
Whether or not this amounts to a net gain or net loss to the state has not been demonstrated.

I can understand that. Schools accept children though. Hospitals dont turn people away. Police and firefighters dont question citizenship before responding to a call. A few states tax based on sales tax alone, and illegals certainly pay that. But those which are payed via paycheck require an actual paycheck.

BUT, i'll grant you that some illegals do get paychecks. Either their status goes unknown, or they acquire fake identifications (easier than it sounds).