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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    This is a thread about the proposed Wall along the southern US border. Remind me again, which country is on the other side of that border?
    You said, "If I was a Mexican, I would..."
    I asked the question because you are not a Mexican, but those benefits you claim are enticing Mexicans across the border are equally true w.r.t. the US if you cross Canada's border. They have more free public services than the USA, and they have loads of cities where no one is looking for "illegal Americans."

    So my question is:
    If those things you said are actually true, then why haven't you moved to Canada?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    This is a thread about the proposed Wall along the southern US border. Remind me again, which country is on the other side of that border?
    I think you missed my point. Do you see what I'm asking, now?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    None of that 'slew' of countries shares a border with the US on which a wall could be erected, save Canada. If Canada ever turns into a cesspool of drugs, crime, poverty, and hopelessly corrupt government, then we may want to consider a wall along the northern border as well. Until then though, one problem at a time..
    No, you got me wrong. I'm not saying that we need a wall on the Canadian border because they are itching to come to America where they can pay out of pocket for their health care.

    I'm asking if those things which you cited as so enticing to Mexicans are equally enticing to you. The increase in benefits and lack of scrutiny over your presence would be ~ equal if not more extreme. After all, your skin is already the same color as most Canadians and you already speak the same language. Blending in with the locals would be easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I merely posed a hypothetical using common colloquial phrasing. You're being a real dick right now. I wish you would stop.
    I've never called you a name or passed my judgement on you.

    If you think the way I understand your deeper motivations is incorrect, then please correct me. I'm only trying to understand you.

    To wit: You said my perspective on you was wrong, and I'm showing you the evidence which motivates my understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    So my question is:
    If those things you said are actually true, then why haven't you moved to Canada?
    Winter is 10 months long, and their strippers are flat out disgusting.

    More seriously, it's because the economic opportunities America affords to someone like me who is equipped to succeed in a capitalist meritocracy. Socialism doesn't suit me.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I'm asking if those things which you cited as so enticing to Mexicans are equally enticing to you. The increase in benefits and lack of scrutiny over your presence would be ~ equal if not more extreme. After all, your skin is already the same color as most Canadians and you already speak the same language. Blending in with the locals would be easier.
    Easier still as I actually hold dual citizenship with Canada. But your premise is wrong. Those enticing things are NOT equally enticing to me. I guess I could have phrased my statement better and said "If I was a poor mexican stuck in a corrupt country with little opportunity...."

    Despite the crime and corruption, Mexico isn't exactly a 3rd world country. They have businesses, and CEO's, and accountants, and lawyers, all of whom are pretty happy right where they are. We're not talking about them. We're talking about people who are so disadvantaged that they are willing to take the risk of illegal immigration. A wall is just another obstacle. It's not a barrier.
    Last edited by BananaStand; 02-27-2017 at 03:39 PM.

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