**** Elections thread *****

[Jack Sawyer]

This would vastly increase the incentive for not smart people to go to college

You can’t just “go to college” cause you decided to go to college, right? There are still tests and prerequisites that you have to have or complete. I think that is where our opinions vastly differ.


Also you don’t get paid to go to college. The tools will be at your disposal, it will be up to you to make the most of it.

On a side note, aren't you a Glenn Greenwald guy? He talks everyday about corruption in government. Giving such an entity the keys to kids minds is a bad idea.

I’m not really a Greenwald guy, but I’m not wearing a tinfoil hat either. Again, we’ve seen it happen elsewhere. Must be a way this can be done, amirite?


And yes, the (your) government is tremendously corrupt, have you been following the news lately?
But that’s a different story for another time.

[BananaStand]

You can’t just “go to college” cause you decided to go to college, right? There are still tests and prerequisites that you have to have or complete.

Nope

I enrolled in a Master's program once upon a time. There were prerequisites. Specifically you had to be 25 and have at least 3 years full time relevant work experience.

I went to them and said "i'm 23 and graduated 6 months ago"

They said "you're in"

[Poopadoop]

Nope

I enrolled in a Master's program once upon a time. There were prerequisites. Specifically you had to be 25 and have at least 3 years full time relevant work experience.

I went to them and said "i'm 23 and graduated 6 months ago"

They said "you're in"

Not every course takes everyone. Obviously you know that.

[BananaStand]

Not every course takes everyone. Obviously you know that.

Right, but for every person, regardless of qualification, there is a school that will take them.

Not everyone gets into college.

Everyone who wants to, gets into college.

[Poopadoop]

Right, but for every person, regardless of qualification, there is a school that will take them.

Like Trump University.

[Jack Sawyer]

Like Trump University.

Hahahahaha, good one

[Poopadoop]

Right, but for every person, regardless of qualification, there is a school that will take them.


Everyone who wants to, gets into college.

Not the college they necessarily want to go to though.

[BananaStand]

Not the college they necessarily want to go to though.

So?

[Poopadoop]

So?

So there's competition.

No-one's suggesting every single person who survive to the age of 18 should get into Harvard all expenses paid for four or eight or twelve years just if they feel like it.

Further, if tuition were made free, guess what - those shitty colleges would have no reason to exist since there would be standards. You couldn't just open a bonus uni to fleece people because that bogus uni would not get funded.

[wufwugy]

You can’t just “go to college” cause you decided to go to college, right?

It's free; therefore you can. Otherwise, major constitutional crisis. This is why in K-12, where it is free, everybody within age is allowed to go virtually no exceptions. Ceteris paribus, making US college free would drastically reduce standards. Consequence of this would be harming people who should be in college.

Also you don’t get paid to go to college. The tools will be at your disposal, it will be up to you to make the most of it.

Yes you do. Room and board are included. If they were not, another constitutional crisis.

I’m not really a Greenwald guy, but I’m not wearing a tinfoil hat either. Again, we’ve seen it happen elsewhere. Must be a way this can be done, amirite?

What has happened elsewhere? All these places with drastically bigger taxes (a big cost) to pay for college are still sending their kids to US schools. In addition, the degree of success to which these systems are experiencing is heavily dependent upon their increased emphasis on vocation. Which is a whole nother can of worms, because academia is very much not supposed to be vocation.

And yes, the (your) government is tremendously corrupt, have you been following the news lately?

It's a bad idea for me to want it to intervene into peoples' educations. Got it.