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 Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
I can't help but think you are a troll account, indicated by your join date (Americans joining an online poker forum in november of 2016? That's a unicorn. Also, november of 2016? What a coincidence),
It actually is just a coincedence. My joining here coincides with my luckboxing in to a bankroll by cashing in an online tournament that I played on a whim. I sought to 'get into' online poker (i had only just dabbled in nano stakes before) with this money and found myself here. Since then I've confirmed my previous feeling that I'm happier putting my poker hours into a live game. Sidebar: if anyone wants a transfer on ACR, I'm your guy.
I found the discussion in this thread interesting, so here I am. I'm really not sure what your problem is with me. Things have been pretty civil here. Me and Poop had a good back and forth, and sure there was some frustration, but I don't feel like there are any hard feelings.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
your avatar (notice the red tie),
What's your point? Yes, the picture is fuzzy, but I snapped it at 30mph. It is indeed a man dressed as trump holding a sign that says "free gropes". Not exactly the most flattering image of our President. I was content to have no avatar, but peer pressure form wuf led me to post one. A satirical jab at a President that I support should show you that I am not some militant troll
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
your staunch refusal of any kind of logic that isn't completely pro-Trump,
Fake news. I've been critical of the president when he's wrong, and supportive of him when he's right. Just because I believe he's doing more right than he does wrong doesn't mean I am 'staunchly' in support of the man. My debate opponent has been staunchly refusing to believe anything that isn't staunchly anti-trump. He's gone so far as to imagine arguments and assume they are true because the President won't take the time to refute them.
I've been debating a serial Trump opponent, it's not surprising that many of my counter arguments are pro-trump. But if "staunch refusal" is evidence of Troll-ish behavior....you should talk to Poop. I get that you know him, and he's been here longer than I have, and he agrees with you on many of these issues. That doesn't mean he's not doing the exact same things you're criticizing me for.
If you want evidence, then start a discussion about the wall, or how the travel ban was implemented, or whether or not KellyAnn Conway is retarded....and see which side of the argument I favor.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
your quoting of only Fox News as if they are the only source of information in the world,
Fake news. I've posted information from a variety of sources. Also, if there is information out there that helps me refute an anti-trump argument in a debate.....I doubt I'll find it on CNN. that's not my fault. That's not evidence of any 'echo chamber' bias from me.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
But anyways, I will be making you a short post within the next two days time-permitting showing you exactly how it goes down in healthcare in the US because of these practices.
Don't bother, I already know what your'e going to say.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
everyone's insurance goes up because of these.
Whoa! Shocker!! What's hilariously ironic here is that this is exactly what the liberals wanted. That's the entire premise of Obamacare. Give free shit to poor people, and make everyone in the middle pay for it. That's what they did with healthcare, thats what they did with entitlement spending, that's the mantra of the democratic party! So when all of those democratic senators write a letter.....
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
those words are bullshit, cow poop.
I'm not sure if it's ignorance on behalf of the democratic party, or if they are exploiting the ignorance of their constituents. Really hard to tell. They never have an answer for "who pays". They just want more free stuff, and don't really care where it comes from. That was the giant flaw in obamacare. That's why I don't believe Obama was lying when he said "if you like your plan, you can keep it". I think he REALLY believed that the private sector (drug and insurance companies), would sacrifice profits in order to support the implementation of his ideals.
He said, "give free stuff to poor people, and we'd really like it if you folks at the top could just pay for all of it yourselves"
And the folks at the top said "Why should we? Fuck that, everybody pays" And rates went up
That's capitalism. That's what drives innovation and investment in our country. Without that, our economy goes stale. What these democrats want, is for the drug company to make some kind of socialist exception. And they probably want the drug company to refuse, so that they can have a villain to fight in their re-election campaigns. They are essentially trolling here. Maybe republicans just decided that they were better than that..
You can't just selectively apply the rules just because it dis-proportionally affects your voting base. No one ever said Capitalism was going to be all gumdrops and rainbows. Sometimes a small amount of people make too much money. . There's no fucking way you can tell me that playing baseball is worth $10 million a year. But you don't seen these senators lining up to condemn pro sports
Meanwhile Republicans probably didn't sign it because they were busy working on new legislation that fixes this problem for everybody. Republicans have been quite vocal about 'transparency' as a major part of whatever healthcare legislation they propose. Nothing gets prices in line like a heavy does of free market competition.
In my lifetime, it's been the republicans who have proven best at running the economy. And all this letter does is confirm that to me. Because it seems like the best idea democrats have is to simply whine. "Whaaa, why can't I have what I want at a price I like"
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