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[wufwugy]

Assumptions are fucking crazy. No matter how deep you get, the bottom level must necessarily be assumed.

[a500lbgorilla]

Assumptions are fucking crazy. No matter how deep you get, the bottom level must necessarily be assumed.

I actually had this conversation with a co-worked this morning who doesn't believe in the Moon landings. Yeah, epistemologically, nothing is known. It's a question of what does it take for you to believe something?

[MadMojoMonkey]

July 20, 1969

I actually had this conversation with a co-worked this morning who doesn't believe in the Moon landings. Yeah, epistemologically, nothing is known. It's a question of what does it take for you to believe something?

I respect a bit of healthy skepticism, especially when extraordinary claims are involved. Not everyone has a dad who was involved in the aerospace industry like I do. I have a lifetime of anecdotal evidence which fits snugly with a non-faked moon landing, but I can't really expect my anecdotes to mean anything. I mean... once you've met Gene Kranz and shook his hand, having seen him in the control room footage, heard him speak on the experiences and struggles at the time... I can't imagine he gets called a liar to his face very often is all. Greatest generation embodied, he is.

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Did you ask your coworker - if the moon landings were faked - who had the technology and interest in debunking them immediately at the time?
Answer: USSR.

The USSR kicked America's tail soundly and repeatedly when it came to the moon and they were far from quiet or subtle about making sure the world knew it. The USA moon landing was almost a decade after the Russians were sending stuff there.

USSR moon firsts:
January 2, 1959 - First lunar spacecraft
September 14, 1959 - First impact into another celestial body (Moon)
October 7, 1959 - First photos of far side of the Moon
February 3, 1966 - First soft landing on another celestial body (Moon) & First photos from another celestial body (Moon)
April 3, 1966 - First artificial satellite to orbit another celestial body: the Moon

USA'a first moon first:
December 21, 1968 First human-crewed spaceflight to, and orbit of, another celestial object: the Moon

The USSR congratulated the USA on the moon landing. The USSR did not call the USA liars and fabricators, despite being in the middle of a cold war at the time.

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If they have a response to that, it's going to be hilariously entertaining. Probably hinged on a conspiracy theory between two world powers with every indication that they were widely invested in the opposite of conspiring with each other.