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 Originally Posted by JKDS
Lemme ask you. What's the wall gonna do? Not guards, not cameras, the wall itself. How does it stop immigration better than say increasing border patrol? Than increasing border surveillance? We don't exactly have mad max style caravans charging our gates and running rampant, we're talking desperate people willing to hike through the desert and most likely die before they even get here. How's the wall stop tunnels? How's it stop boats? All a wall will do is provide a tangible showing of control when the non tangible would be far better and cheaper.
Yeah you're right. It didn't help at all in Israel: "While 9,570 citizens of various African countries entered Israel illegally in the first half of 2012, only 34 did the same in the first six months of 2013, after construction of the main section of the barrier was completed." That's a reduction of over 99.5 percent.
People are willing to die to illegally immigrate to the United States. So what? Plenty of people are willing to die to commit other crimes. That doesn't mean we should make it easier for them to commit those crimes.
Also, trying to represent a wall as the only thing that would be done in an overall plan to stop illegal immigration, like you're doing with all of your "How does it stop _______?" questions is ridiculous. It's like you think we're just going to stop having border patrol or cameras and sensors at the border and on the beaches close to the border.
And to be clear, what's proposed is not strictly a wall in the sense of the Great Wall of China where it's just one long-ass, tall-ass wall. What's proposed is broken up into several sections, some of which are big-ass walls, and some of which are covered by border patrol agents with better preventative equipment than what they have now. All of those questions you asked are a part of the fucking plan for the wall. Jesus Christ.
So many people have opinions about this shit when they have no idea what they are talking about, and it would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
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