**** Elections thread *****

[a500lbgorilla]

I wish I could find some Diane Rehm episodes where they bring on lawyer types that brutalize each other, but I've seen some great shit on that talk show. You can really find yourself spun around by great debaters, and I'd love to find that in an arena arguing over Santa or whatnot.

I'm not sure how I feel about giving her credit for this-- I mean, maybe, but it seems more likely that it's the big money that backs the party trying to rig the race in their horse's favor.

Also, are you just impressed by the political maneuvering, or are you actually cheer leading this angle shooting?

In 2017, Hilary Clinton will be president. I'm just enjoying the ride.

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In 2017, Hilary Clinton will be president. I'm just enjoying the ride.

Right, but is that really your preference? Like, I don't think I disagree with you, and I do appreciate the spectacle of expert level political maneuvering, but I also don't want to see a Clinton presidency.

[a500lbgorilla]

Right, but is that really your preference? Like, I don't think I disagree with you, and I do appreciate the spectacle of expert level political maneuvering, but I also don't want to see a Clinton presidency.

No, it's not my preference. But who am I and what does it matter?

If I rubbed my magic lamp and a Genie popped out and granted me 3 presidents, I would have elected Barack in '08, and what did that manage? I would have elected Bush in '04 (I got swift boated), and I would have elected Bush in '00 (I was young and enraptured by conservative talk radio, plus Gore was a bitch as seen by his voterate retreat).

So at this point, I'm really enjoying Cruz because that guy has smart leaking out his sweat glands. I like Trump because he also represents a seismic threat to the old guard of the Rs. I like Bernie because he authentically speaks to my generation (my vegan friends are big fans and it's a lot of fun to pump up Trump infront of them), but odds are odds and those odds have got Hilary taking it all the way more often than not.

I'm not in the business of standing in the way of the inevitable.

[wufwugy]

I like Bernie because he authentically speaks to my generation

he does? i wonder about that

i know millennials think he speaks to millennials, but it feels much more to me like he "speaks to" the reality that his policies have made things so shitty for millennials, but we aren't listening.

i mean, you're right, millennials do think he speaks to what they want. there's just such a deep irony that the problems millennials think he's looking to solve are problems that have been created by the types of policies he supports in the first place. they complain about how much money they waste on college and how hard it is to get work without doing so, so they want bernie to come in and pay for it, yet they don't seem to realize that it's because of the government paying for it in the first place that has made them need to waste so much on college and made it so hard to get work otherwise.

i cringe whenever i hear somebody in one of my classes complain about how crappy the university functions then in the next breath wants bernie to pay for more of it. these people do not have the feintest clue of what causes or solves their problems.

sorry that's my rant. i have been incredibly jaded by the colossal amount of waste that is my college career. years of man-hour-energy wasted on a piece of paper that provides zero value other than demonstrating acceptance to the employment norms created by the flooding of money from the government into the universities. economic literacy ftw

[wufwugy]

In 2017, Hilary Clinton will be president. I'm just enjoying the ride.

she aint. she aint she aint she aint.

using every element of conventional wisdom i know of, the belief that she's a favorite to win arises from the idea of demographic determinism. lucky for us, the idea of demographic determinism is total nonsense.

why do you think she's going to win?

[a500lbgorilla]

she aint. she aint she aint she aint.

using every element of conventional wisdom i know of, the belief that she's a favorite to win arises from the idea of demographic determinism. lucky for us, the idea of demographic determinism is total nonsense.

why do you think she's going to win?

She's going to win the D ticket and chances are great that the nation shows up for a D president. Simple as that.