Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

[SuperMonkeyFace]

because i can read SIU because we r soul mates

yw monkey glgl

He has literally zero content

A villager siu actually plays or appears to be trying

He's not here but I'm fairly certain if he randed a PR he'd be more than what he is doing now.

So out of him n gizmo cfd or whatever the chance of mislynching a feeling bad I'd lynch siu

[baudib]

Night bitches

[baudib]

tabulating ballots, rigging rands, sniping yer mum

[baudib]

THIS IS A VOTE COUNT

NightGizmo 8 (ShipItUp, Kami, Luco, BigRed, Rascal, Hifi, ProbablyNotAWolff, Beck)
ShipItUp 5 (gabe, Nightgizmo, Rilla, Wufwugy, SuperMonkeyFace)
Kami 3 (TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, Bankitdrew)
Aubreymcfate 2 (TopTierTom, OngBonga)
Rilla 1 (JKDS)
BankItDrew 1 (Boog)

not voting: MadMojoMonkey

5 more mins for corrections.

[baudib]

PM me if you see any mistakes, was in meeting.

[baudib]

NightGizmo was enjoying a warm reunion with his FTR brethren. He was having a peaceful day, something that could not be said for the days of his youth, when bumping old threads and trying to give chardrian pms was all the rage at FTR.

he dead now

Spoiler: Show

You are George Washington, the father of our country and a great American. You chopped down a cherry tree and told the truth of it, and you did other cool stuff too even though you had wooden teeth.

You are a vanilla villager.

[baudib]

Night will last 24 hours.

PM actions by 9 p.m. Wednesday

EDIT: earlier deadline

[baudib]

MOD NOTE

I realized I made a mistake by making self-votes an instant MAJ. This would possibly break the game for a couple reasons.

Instead, self-votes will be locked in. If you self-vote, you are not instantly MAJJED, but you will be unable to vote for anyone else.

There will be no majority lynch in this game until the village is at MUST LYNCH (mylo).

if you have any questions, feel free to pm

[baudib]

While we wait for D2, here's a video from Rihanna, who is almost American.

[baudib]

Night moves...da ding da ding da ding

Top Tier Tom, we hardly knew ye.

Spoiler: Show

You are Mike Trout, the greatest active baseball player, and what is more American than baseball?

You are a vanilla villager.

Kami and ShipItUp are feeling under the weather today. If they don't receive medical attention, they will die.

[baudib]

Live players (19)
a500lbgorilla
aubreymcfate
BankItDrew
Beck Novo
Bigred
BooG690
Dsaxton
Gabe
Hifi
JKDS
Kami
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
ShipItUp
SuperMonkeyFace
TheBrokenATM
Wufwugy

NightGizmo,vanillager, lynched D1
TopTierTom, vanillager, killed N1

IT IS DAY

[baudib]

*********IN-THREAD ATTACKS***********
ITAs will begin at noon EST Thursday.

Rules:
1. You only get one shot. You can choose to shoot in the noon session or the 6 p.m. session. Players firing multiple shots will be punished.
2. To shoot, type in bold red with your target's name. You may use any flavor you'd like.

Example:
Shoot baudib!
Chop off baudib's head with a unicorn horn.

Are valid.

Shoot baudib!
baudib
not valid

Shots with incorrect formatting must be corrected.
If you make a mistake in formatting, you MUST shoot at the same player.
Shots will be processed in order. Shots that hit already dead targets are wasted, you do not get another shot.
All shots have a 15% chance of killing the target.

EDIT for clarification: An unresolved shot from a player who is subsequently killed will still be processed.

[baudib]

Day 2 ends 10 p.m. EST Friday.

[lilrascal]

Day 1 Vote Chartz



For those that haven't seen these before, the numbers on the left are the number of votes. The numbers on the bottom are the post number of the vote. The colors of the players don't mean anything as they are done automatically by Excel.

[Beck Novo]

GG, Tom. You will be missed.

[lilrascal]

So, Kami and SIU are both poisoned. I don't know if that could have worked better for us, neither were contributing much.

[Beck Novo]

At least we know that at least one of SIU and Kami is a villager. Probably both.

If I was capable of healing one of the two, SIU > Kami.

[Beck Novo]

rascal, can you break your chartz down for me, please? Do you notice anything in particular?

[MadMojoMonkey]

lynch rilla


@Beck. What changed about your stance that Gizmo wasn't wolfy enough to vote for at EOD?

[lilrascal]

They show the vote count for each player as the game progressed. It can sometimes help to find if a wolf was saved based on the vote movement. I haven't really looked at it yet since the NK.

[Beck Novo]

Honestly, I think the wolves made a shit play by poisoning SIU/Kami.

My thought is that if Kami is in fact a villager, that the wolves would not poison her. Why? Because she's a currently a liability to us so risking her death only helps us in the long run. Which would mean that I think our own poisoner poisoned Kami. Leaving SIU to be poisoned by the wolves, making him lock village. (I'm discrediting the possibility that the wolves poisoned one of their own.)

But why poison SIU, the counter-wagon? The longer he's alive and within the PoE, the more difficult time we'll all have.

I honestly cannot see a scenario where Kami and SIU are not v/v.

[lilrascal]

ITAs: This game will be feature an ITA session. ITAs are "In-Thread Attacks." On D2, there will be 2 1-hour windows in which you are allowed to shoot at other players in the game, with a 15% chance of killing your target. More rules will be explained at the EOD D1/SOD D2.

I didn't see it in the post above, but just so everyone knows, the ITA sessions are 1 hour each.

[Beck Novo]

They show the vote count for each player as the game progressed. It can sometimes help to find if a wolf was saved based on the vote movement. I haven't really looked at it yet since the NK.

I've seen your chartz before, I understand your intent. I'm just looking for your take on it is all.

[lilrascal]

Honestly, I think the wolves made a shit play by poisoning SIU/Kami.

My thought is that if Kami is in fact a villager, that the wolves would not poison her. Why? Because she's a currently a liability to us so risking her death only helps us in the long run. Which would mean that I think our own poisoner poisoned Kami. Leaving SIU to be poisoned by the wolves, making him lock village. (I'm discrediting the possibility that the wolves poisoned one of their own.)

But why poison SIU, the counter-wagon? The longer he's alive and within the PoE, the more difficult time we'll all have.

I honestly cannot see a scenario where Kami and SIU are not v/v.

I tend to agree with you, but I can also see the situation of one of them being a wolf and poisoning the other just for the FPS.

[Beck Novo]

lynch rilla


@Beck. What changed about your stance that Gizmo wasn't wolfy enough to vote for at EOD?

This is exactly what I was about to do, so good looks.

Lynch rilla

And Gizmo was always in my PoE and I was never necessarily opposed to his lynch, so I ran with it.

[gabe]

Damn I regret missing so much yesterday but I will be around all night

Gizmo and tom, I thought both of you were pretty village appearing so you played well

I haven't read deeply all that happened before the day ended. However I do have a strong feeling about the results. It is much more likely that the village poisoner picked kami and the wolves picked villager SIU. It doesn't make sense that the wolves would poison one of their own (hoping to get healed and get great cover). That would rely too much on lots of random chance

[Beck Novo]

I tend to agree with you, but I can also see the situation of one of them being a wolf and poisoning the other just for the FPS.

Two questions for you. How often does an FPS happen here on FTR?

And which option do you think is the most likely? V/V, V/W, or W/W?

[gabe]

Beck I agree with almost all that you said, except the possibility of kami being a baddie. I think it's fairly possible

[lilrascal]

I've seen your chartz before, I understand your intent. I'm just looking for your take on it is all.

I'm not really seeing much from it. The BID claim kind of thru things off. It puts a little suspicion on Aubrey based on how fast her wagon dropped, but I don't think it's really anything there since there wasn't a strong case there IMO.

Sometimes they won't tell us much until a couple days of votes.

[gabe]

I think we have a very strong village core. When I am off my phone and on a computer I will try to compile the list

[gabe]

How many hours until I can be shot ? Do I have to choose now when I'm in the ita arena ?

[Kami]

Atleast I'll die with the bae

[lilrascal]

Two questions for you. How often does an FPS happen here on FTR?

It's happened in a couple games that I've played here, but I've only been playing here since the beginning of this year. But, most of the players in this game are non-FTR regulars, so I don't know how much it would come into play here.

And which option do you think is the most likely? V/V, V/W, or W/W?

I'd say v/v is most likely, followed closely by v/w. I don't think it's w/w.

[Beck Novo]

How many hours until I can be shot ? Do I have to choose now when I'm in the ita arena ?

Only 14 more hours until ITAs. So, plenty of time.

Let's assemble a strong village core and consider anyone that takes shots within a wolf. We'll guide shots into our PoE in an ordered fashion. Let me know when you get back.

[lilrascal]

How many hours until I can be shot ? Do I have to choose now when I'm in the ita arena ?

The way ITA's work are a player can choose to shoot any other player during an ITA session. The player being shot at doesn't have to be around.

Also, only one shot can be taken per player per day.

[Beck Novo]

rascal, can you give me your village core? I'm looking for three to four players. Please do not include me.

[lilrascal]

Beck, will you be around for both ITA sessions?

[lilrascal]

rascal, can you give me your village core? I'm looking for three to four players. Please do not include me.

Let me go over my notes based on the NK. I'll get you a list in a bit.

[gabe]

I'm on my phone now waiting for my dinner to show up

Without reviewing posts extensively (yet), my list is like beck, me, mojo, ong, shipitup. I feel v strongly about these people being villagers

[lilrascal]

rascal, can you give me your village core? I'm looking for three to four players. Please do not include me.

Luco, Ong and MMM

[Beck Novo]

Beck, will you be around for both ITA sessions?

Because they're both an hour, I may be able to make the first, but will definitely be here for the second.

We have plenty of time to organize a list of shats, though, so there should be no confusion when the time comes.

[Beck Novo]

Both of you and MMM are definitely in my core. Unsure about the rest (Ong in particular), but I trust your judgement.

As of right now, these players should not be shat at under any circumstance (this list is subject to change):

Beck
lilrascal
gabe
MMM

Luco
SIU
Ong

[gabe]

I forgot about luco being on the likely villager list. I guess since rascal agrees with 3 of mine I will add him

[Beck Novo]

Do you both trust BID's claim?

[Beck Novo]

I also like bopo because he made a great first impression on me with his list of reads. But I need to see a little more before soft-clearing him.

[Beck Novo]

Atleast I'll die with the bae

give me one wolf Kami plz

[gabe]

My "hahaha" read on bid had me thinking he was a wolf or a special. But I can't see how a village special role would claim backup poisoner ? I guess he would be buying time if he was actually the healer or real poisoner? That seems unlikely though

[gabe]

If bid was lying, is he ever a good guy ?

[Beck Novo]

Day One Final VC

NightGizmo 8 (ShipItUp, Kami, Luco, BigRed, Rascal, Hifi, ProbablyNotAWolff, Beck)
ShipItUp 5 (gabe, Nightgizmo, Rilla, Wufwugy, SuperMonkeyFace)
Kami 3 (TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, Bankitdrew)
Aubreymcfate 2 (TopTierTom, OngBonga)
Rilla 1 (JKDS)
BankItDrew 1 (Boog)

Not Voting: MadMojoMonkey

Just putting this out there, will adjust as I need to. My key issue, though, is that other than BigRed, I at the very least have a light village lean on every player on Gizmo's wagon, some even I believe are definitely villagers. But how can that be so?

@lilrascal & @gabe, if there is a wolf on Gizmo's wagon, who is it? All things considered.

[gabe]

First instinct says hifi. Also bigred seems very villagery to me

[Beck Novo]

If bid was lying, is he ever a good guy ?

Probably not. Or he's playing selfishly, which is not good play for us.

My thought is that he's either the village's backup or the wolves' backup. I doubt he would fake-claim as a Vanillager to save face and if he's a wolf then claiming anything will push attention elsewhere. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how he follows up today.

[Beck Novo]

Day One Final VC

NightGizmo 8 (ShipItUp, Kami, Luco, BigRed, Rascal, Hifi, ProbablyNotAWolff, Beck)
ShipItUp 5 (gabe, Nightgizmo, Rilla, Wufwugy, SuperMonkeyFace)
Kami 3 (TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, Bankitdrew)
Aubreymcfate 2 (TopTierTom, OngBonga)
Rilla 1 (JKDS)
BankItDrew 1 (Boog)

Not Voting: MadMojoMonkey

Posting again for posterity.

Right now I'm feeling a Wuf/rilla/Aubrey wolf team -- I suggest that we take shats here first. More to come as I read deeper.

[BankItDrew]

If bid was lying, is he ever a good guy ?

No, if I was vanilla, I wouldn't fake claim. I've never fake claimed before and I never will.

It was actually my first ever claim, in all the years I've played. I only did it because I'm a PR.

[Beck Novo]

No, if I was vanilla, I wouldn't fake claim. I've never fake claimed before and I never will.

It was actually my first ever claim, in all the years I've played. I only did it because I'm a PR.

Hi.

Do you have list of players you're confident are villagers? Anywhere from three to four will do.

[BankItDrew]

Why the hell would the wolves not nom me?!

I'm a villager.
I'm a PR.
Not a wolf.

I don't understand why I didn't get nommed at all.

[Beck Novo]

Why the hell would the wolves not nom me?!

I'm a villager.
I'm a PR.
Not a wolf.

I don't understand why I didn't get nommed at all.

Probably because you're not a threat until the Primary Poisoner dies. And you're not a threat after Day 3, if you're telling the truth.

[BankItDrew]

Hi.

Do you have list of players you're confident are villagers? Anywhere from three to four will do.

Sup

I think the following are villagers:
pnaw, rascal, and beck

[BankItDrew]

Probably because you're not a threat until the Primary Poisoner dies.

True

[gabe]

No, if I was vanilla, I wouldn't fake claim. I've never fake claimed before and I never will.

It was actually my first ever claim, in all the years I've played. I only did it because I'm a PR.

So you are saying you could be the healer ?

All you are saying is you are not vanilla which I think means no role

[gabe]

Points to anyone who finds bid claiming anything ever

[lilrascal]

Do you both trust BID's claim?

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Him being a PR could have been what was pinging me.

[lilrascal]

Sup

I think the following are villagers:
pnaw, rascal, and beck

Why pnaw?

[lilrascal]

Day One Final VC

NightGizmo 8 (ShipItUp, Kami, Luco, BigRed, Rascal, Hifi, ProbablyNotAWolff, Beck)
ShipItUp 5 (gabe, Nightgizmo, Rilla, Wufwugy, SuperMonkeyFace)
Kami 3 (TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, Bankitdrew)
Aubreymcfate 2 (TopTierTom, OngBonga)
Rilla 1 (JKDS)
BankItDrew 1 (Boog)

Not Voting: MadMojoMonkey

Posting again for posterity.

Right now I'm feeling a Wuf/rilla/Aubrey wolf team -- I suggest that we take shats here first. More to come as I read deeper.

Of those 3, I'd put Wuf at the bottom of that list and rilla at the top.

[lilrascal]

Because they're both an hour, I may be able to make the first, but will definitely be here for the second.

We have plenty of time to organize a list of shats, though, so there should be no confusion when the time comes.

I won't be around for the first session, but I will be for the second. I'd like you to organize the shots for the village. I don't think there's been a shots game played here before, so someone needs to take charge and I'd like it to be you since your my top villa read.

[BankItDrew]

Why pnaw?

He's been the 3rd least wolfy player thus far

[lilrascal]

He's been the 3rd least wolfy player thus far

I was hoping you could give me more of your reasons for thinking that.

[BankItDrew]

Why is he not in your list?

[lilrascal]

Why is he not in your list?

I haven't seen enough from him yet.

[BankItDrew]

I haven't seen enough from him yet.

Cool.

Fun chat.

[lilrascal]

He only has 5 total posts. I can see from your POV that you'd like him since he used a couple of those to say not to vote for you once you claimed. But he really hasn't given me anything to make me think he's villa.

[BankItDrew]

I have pnaw in my village camp because nothing he/she has posted has stood out to me.

Probably mostly due to the low post count.

[lilrascal]

He should be past his post limit now, so I'm waiting to see how his posting today.

[Kami]

Aubrey

[aubreymcfate]

wow, a lot happened while i was otherwise occupied.

bid's claim makes it hard to assess wagons, so much hinges on whether it is fake or not..

BiD being special could explain that weird comment he made about his signature. it could be the reason he took the line about "smooth wolf" as a compliment.. felt he was being smooth as a special. Honestly that's a stretch, but you never know. Have to wait and see, I guess.

Rilla not posting much is weird.

JKDS voting off wagon for him is also weird. but JKDS defending me when I was an easy target for a wolf (my ambiguous posting left me open to deserved suspicion, a wolf would jump on that opportunity, or at the very least not rock the boat) makes him a likely villager to me.

[Kami]

im gonna re read later so i can make a good ita