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I might come off as an asshole here, but can someone explain how the Sansa scene was actually a rape?

She clearly doesn't like Ramsey and doesn't WANT to marry/fuck him, but she did agree to go through with the marriage and obviously understood what she was signing up for that night. She was scared and uncomfortable, but she never fought it, said no, or made any other indication that she was trying to stop it. And the stuff with Reek/Theon made it even worse, but is that enough to call it rape?

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I might come off as an asshole here, but can someone explain how the Sansa scene was actually a rape?

She clearly doesn't like Ramsey and doesn't WANT to marry/fuck him, but she did agree to go through with the marriage and obviously understood what she was signing up for that night. She was scared and uncomfortable, but she never fought it, said no, or made any other indication that she was trying to stop it. And the stuff with Reek/Theon made it even worse, but is that enough to call it rape?

She didn't exactly have a choice with Baelish, and she certainly didn't think she was agreeing to rough sex in front of the broken shell of the man who was once like a brother and now who she believes brutally murdered he two young brothers.

And while I think some of the redefining of rape that is currently taking place is ridiculous, her lack of consent here is clearly not consent. At the point of the actual scene, and probably before it, she surely realized she had made a mistake, but there is no way out once she's in Winterfell. Saying "no" doesn't change the outcome, just like it doesn't change whether it was rape or not.