Varchertine's Werewolf Game Thread

[Luco]

Oh well you just said you voted for him d1 and d2 so you can't really say that it was a misrep when I was just responding to a point you yourself made. I think objectively voting for hoopy and wuf are effectively the same thing anyway so the same bussing principle applies, but I'm not sure if you'd be the type to bus as a wolf the more I talk to you. You seem almost... offended that I don't find you villagery which I somehow find villagery.

And your responses feel fairly natural here and they're coming out in real time which helps a bunch. I still like you as villager.

[Luco]

Oh wait you're saying you voted wuf because you thought hoopy was a wolf. Okay that whole thing makes a lot more sense now

Yeah. I thought wuf was villager throughout D1 and leaning villager D2. hoopy felt more suspect for sure.

[monstrman]

Well that wouldn't even be bussing I guess? I mean I could see a really good wolf constructing posts in a way to try and get themselves cleared by bussing using a villager as the scapegoat reason for your vote and when the wolf flips you prolly look even better for lynching a wolf despite being "wrong"

But I think occham's razor prolly states that generally a wolf is just going to bus a wolf by saying their wolfbro is a wolf so I think that looks good for you as well.

[Luco]

looking at how day 2 panned out..

I'm really confused by wuf's late-day play yesterday. Baud was the leading wagon and appeared to be heading for the lynch and then wuf came into the thread and launched into an obviously well-prepared attack on 'rilla. Wuf was a wolf, so i'm trying to get inside his head and figure this out, at the point he did this 'rilla was getting solid villager points from most players and the lynch was centred on people thinking rilla's partner was a wolf. If wuf had wanted the baudib lynch to play out then surely he simply needed to add more points to the case on baudib. The fact that he chose to do something different rings really strange to me. Feels like baudib and wuf be getting all fps as a wolf team here. Imagine wolf vs wolf as the only two viable wagons late-day, surely they'd race to do what they could to clear one of them.

that plus all the reasons that held yesterday that still hold now = Lynch Baudib

Daven you read through all of D2 and this is your only observation?

[monstrman]

luco, is there any universe where you would believe keybored was a wolf, and if so what would be your reasoning for thinking it? Just trying to cover all my bases here because I want to clear your slot as a whole if I clear it.

[Luco]

Well that wouldn't even be bussing I guess? I mean I could see a really good wolf constructing posts in a way to try and get themselves cleared by bussing using a villager as the scapegoat reason for your vote and when the wolf flips you prolly look even better for lynching a wolf despite being "wrong"

But I think occham's razor prolly states that generally a wolf is just going to bus a wolf by saying their wolfbro is a wolf so I think that looks good for you as well.

Actually I think the wolves would probably go for the villagers in any V-W pairings, especially in early game. Reason being, they could expect the villagers to post something clearing which would then allow them to back off while still keeping some creds

[monstrman]

Actually I think the wolves would probably go for the villagers in any V-W pairings, especially in early game. Reason being, they could expect the villagers to post something clearing which would then allow them to back off while still keeping some creds

It's kind of ironic that you're describing to me the exact plan that I think wolf you would use to try and bus their wolfbro. I also think it's incredibly villagery because I think if wolf you was getting away with bussing I don't think you would explain the exact method you used to get away with it.

[Luco]

luco, is there any universe where you would believe keybored was a wolf, and if so what would be your reasoning for thinking it? Just trying to cover all my bases here because I want to clear your slot as a whole if I clear it.

No. Keybored is a villager. Trust me.

Or, look at D1 where he votes wuf twice, goes apeshit at hoopy over a POV slip near EoD...

[monstrman]

No. Keybored is a villager. Trust me.

Or, look at D1 where he votes wuf twice, goes apeshit at hoopy over a POV slip near EoD...

Yeah but you just said that a wolf would go for a villager in the v/w pairings, so how does this make sense as a reason to clear him?

[Luco]

Yeah but you just said that a wolf would go for a villager in the v/w pairings, so how does this make sense as a reason to clear him?

Yeah I know, and I don't want to break the rules here.

I think we are going to get lynched regardless so it's all academic anyway.

[Luco]

iirc you said you could go either way on boog?

[monstrman]

iirc you said you could go either way on boog?

Yeah, I don't really think he's been particularly villagery or wolfy, and ofc my initial reaction is to want to not lynch him so it's kind of tilting trying to read him knowing if he's a wolf I die, but I think that if one of ong/baudib is a wolf he looks really really good.

[monstrman]

In the sense that

wolf baudib: trying to mislynch villager boog by calling him a wolf because it's easy at this stage in the game

Wolf ong: trying to gain immense villager cred as a wolf for "correctly" clearing a v/v pairing despite the fact that there was momentum for a boog lynch anyway. Caveat to this one is that I think wolf ong would be more likely to just hard attack boog if boog was a villager and ong was a wolf because it would be an easy mislynch.

[monstrman]

ong/boog w/w pairing not IMPOSSIBLE the more I think about it, but baudib/boog just never happens here.

[Luco]

#737

rascal - gabe
rilla - boog
hoopy - boog
luco - wuf
rong - boog
gabe - baud
boog - gabe
key - wuf
baud - gabe
ong - gabe
bid - boog
monstr - baud
daven - wuf
mmm- boog
wuf - gabe

gabe - 5
boog - 5 (leads)
wuf - 2
baud - 3

A wolf counting the votes at EoD1. And it came out just two minutes after his previous post. My initial reaction is that he'd be more concerned with the VC if there was a wolf involved...

[Luco]

#814

I can compromise and lynch wuf since Rilla is one of my stronger villager leans and wuf spent oh so many paragparagraphs explicitly explaining the exact pros and cons of revealing vs no revealing, and I can seriously see a wolf hiding behind that to try and blend in

good post from monstr to start d2

[Luco]

It's not impossible that both baudib and ong are villagers and one of my villager reads is wrong. I seem to be hard defending wolves all the time these days.

#912

BID, I'm not lynching MMM today. I'll fight tooth and nail against any lynch that's not Wuf/Boog.

+v point

[Luco]

I mean, traditionally these mega fights are 95% v-v with blinkers

[Luco]

#1013, click the little arrows to read it in context

okay this turned out to be a huge ass post, so bear with





now that we have two deaths under our belt, we can actually do stuff. initial review of wagonomics shows me getting to 4 within the first couple of posts and not getting any lower until i rammed everybody's head against the wall. it was only after i demonstrated that i had been at 5 votes for the whole day and nobody else had been higher than 2 and most votes were either spread out in 1 or absent. even mmm had to drop off my wagon after that.

then near the eod it went to boog rapidly then just as rapid a drop off and onto gabe and baud. but then boog resurged. very eod had gabe edging out boog

i am obviously the most lynchbaity player in this game. merely minutes into it and i had 4 votes. count it, fucking 4. it took me raising hell to get below 4. i was accused of not hunting or playing my normal village game, but im left here baffled that anybody would think that since i never hunt d1. i goof around or bold based on intuition or policy. i do wagonomics and deep game reads. d1 has not been a hunting day for me for like two whole years. the wolves are those who pretend they dont know this.

enter rilla. he has made it a point to muddy the waters and tell everybody im acting differently. sometimes im left wondering if anybody even reads anythign i say. i tend to think i can read rilla well, so i thought little of it at first. but then he kept doing it. bolded me then debolded then bolded again. and he's back to it today. i have made it emphatically clear that my schedule is a specific time and that i am busy, yet yesterday, at a time when i am never on, he says "derp wuf is so suspiciously absent". ofc i am i usually dont get home until 3-5PST and even when i do im fucking spent because im a stupid person trying to major in math. it's funny how i keep telling a guy in my class how good he is at math and he keeps denying it, but he picks things up at least twice as fast as i do. this is literally the last thing i should be studying, which is why im doing it.

my d1 wagon was clearly a bullshit wagon without any counters. i think at least one player is among the first four bolds, most likely mmm. but apparently nobody even knows mmm is playing, as ive been the only bold on him all game. the other thing that stands out in the wagonomics is that once it became about baud and gabe, things got crazy. it could be about boog, but he's also major lynchbait. the dude gets early lynched in half the games he plays. it's reasonable since he always seems so wolfy, but the fact is that after i posted the huge discrepancy between my wagon and any others, everything jumped to boog. he and i are among the easiest lynchbait and the wagons got heavy almost instantly. looks more like wolves taking the easy road (as well as some villagers) more than bolding for rationale. if boog is a wolf, it would mean that my wagon probably wouldnt have lost the steam the way it did. i was such an easy lynch. this doesnt clear boog by any stretch of the imagination. hell he is one of my wolf picks for the simple fact that he was on my wagon so easily. but the ease of his wagon suggests he is just a railroaded villager. at least for now

which brings us to baud. well, and gabe but we know he's a villager now. it was when baud's wagon started getting steam that things got crazy. at the time i thought his defenses were better than gabe's, as he seemed much more natural baud. but he wasnt always. he opened the game claiming he didnt care much and wasnt going to do much. then suddenly when his neck nears the guillotine, he has epiphanies about how people not named baud are wolves. rilla too. once baud was under pressure, they both made a show of getting on gabe and they flopped around too. both of them adored lynching any of me gabe or boog. and today they're both on me.

baud and rilla are voting as a block. funny how they've basically cleared each other. more like they're both wolves. mmm is the third. it's in the wagonomics. here's the step by step of it

im in the lead and bid bolds boog



then I make the wagonomics post that demonstrates what ive been saying the whole time, and shortly after baud gets on boog



teh hoopman on boog. tell me it isnt so



lol jesus christ talk about lynchbait. granted rong aint a wolf



oh nifty so baud didnt think boog was a wolf then?



lolwat? boog wagon almost launching as quickly as mine did



boog defends himself and then ong switches



something something baud baud



boog on baud



oh hey what's this three switches



nutlow villaging or topform wolfing. notice that keybored has been on my case since second uno. i dont even think he has bolded anybody. just me over and over. all with shit reason.



not happy about this. boog engaging in some similar behavior as baud



oh heeeey look who decided to show up



and here we go, a known villager getting on baud



self preservation and/or reads. looks to me like reads and we'll be owing gabe and apology. cant say im a fan of the idea that gabe could retain his old glory as considered such a great player. ofc if he deserves it he deserves it



lol scratch that. all self preservation from gabe apparently



more self preservation



next three are telling







i thought everbody knew i was fucking gone. such opportunism. baud is in the clear and rilla wants to get back on me, laying all the groundwork he can. he's knows he cant nom me and he knows how strong i am as a villager. yes i get everything wrong, but that's only before i get it right. rilla absolutely knows the danger i pose, to him specifically since im never misread him in the pass. hell baud even recently said "he plays bad but gets there". in a no nom game, im a prime target of thinking wolves. huge lynchbait yet also huge narrative controller and endgame threat


hoops was already on boog but rebolds



oh heeeeeeey look who doesnt care about anything but confusion and getting not-deaded. me or boog, doesn't seem to matter



hmmmm



erebody bolding boog and gabe now



erebody including me. at least i had actual reasons. not some bullshit protection or bullshit self preservation



same time as me



a little surprised shakespeare (i mean daven) found enough time to stray his vision from me. tbh im sitting on my thoughts about him since i have been so epicly burned by his unquenchable desire to always help wolves.

sorry mmm, yes i do keep lots of stuff close to the vest. only newbs say most of what who they think is wolf and who isnt. i have long since changed to a style where i focus attention on individuals and wagon dynamics


late to the party. or maybe just on time. gabe was already over boog from both me and daven's posts. mmm looks worried since there was no time left





d2

never let a lack of rationale stop you!



fancy fucking that






here we have it folks. rilla and baud haven't assed a single correct thought about me all game, and here they are voting in block. they care more about getting rid of me than they do actually hunting. we have a wealth of information on d1. all good villagers use that info to their advantage. only bad wolves disregard it and cling to an agenda


lynch baud

for postgame: baud and rilla, with mmm and keybored for the final two.

This looks really, really good for baudib and rilla and bad for boog. Look how wishy washy wuf is over boog. He has a fence sitting paragraph and then most future references to boog are vicarious via the voting.

Keybored also gets more v-points btw.

[a500lbgorilla]

If baud's a wolf, I'mma bet rascal-daven.

If baud's a villager, I'm just gonna lol so hard from the dead thread.

[Luco]

Page 14 looks great for baudib. Some really strong interaction with wuf that doesn't feel w-w to me at all

[a500lbgorilla]

rescind

Buying time.

[Luco]

#1037 is just one example

what exactly does this worst wolf game consist of? getting to the top of bolds in just under 3 hours of the game opening, then outlining strategy that helps us immensely, then finally people realize that i had been the leading wagon with no other options the entire game so they get off?

oh but wait i got accused of not posting while i was gone. oh but wait i got accused of not having epic d1 soulreads. oh but wait i just get bolded over and over and over

i am sorry if you are a villager. i am not in a cordial place over this game. i feel like i was right about the links, that i was backed up by most of the players, that it was a big deal that i was right since everything i see about the format suggests that wolves get a big benefit out of hidden links and villagers get a huge benefit out of revealed links, and yet despite all that, i have been on the chopping block constantly for this. nevermind that rilla had the same opinion as me. at first i was baffled that i was the one getting so much heat when i was saying the same thing as rilla, but now i think it's because rilla is a wolf

it's unlikely that both you and rilla are wolves, just like it's unlikely that any d2 soulread is correct. but if the shoe fits

Everyone read from #983 to #1061, baud looks golden here

[Luco]

I keep reading, baud just gets better and better d2

Based on your groupings, Wuf-Hoopy is always the correct lynch today.

and wuf-hoopy is still a superior lynch to daven-bigred

Here's a giant post saying nothing. It's blatantly clear that everyone wants your assessment of each other and that practically everyone else is making judgments based on the opinions of partners. Your refusal to do so is hugely detrimental to the village.

The fact that Hoopy won't clear you or give you more than a tepid "neutral" response should worry everyone.

Ong has a couple of good posts too

wuf more or less just claimed wolf imo

Last game, hoopy was a wolf, wuf was villager. wuf had a couple of reads on hoopy that were right. wuf, with his beautiful ego, would be happy with himself, patting himself on the back, pleased with how much he owned hoopy. Fast forward to this game, and wuf opens his role pm to find out that he's buddied to hoopy. Villager wuf thinks oh fucking yay, I can own the hoopster again! Woop de fucking doo! Wolf wuf thinks holy fuck trust me to roll wolf the one fucking game where I have to play villager in two threads.

lynch wuf

[Luco]

#1287

here's the lead-in to the wuf vs boog (most of those wuf votes were early day)

post 398 vote count unofficial w

wuf(5) - boog, daven, key, MMM, ong
boog(2) - gabe, rilla
baud(1) - monstr
daven(1) - Luco
gabe(1) - baud
MMM(1) - wuf
ong(1) - rong

no vote(4) - BID, bigred, hoopy, rascal


bid jumps on boog based on wuf not a wolf, boog next highest wagon (402)
wuf 5, boog 3, baud 1


baudib on boog, sponging bid (413)
wuf 5, boog 4, gabe 0, baud 1


hoopy on boog, based on can't self lynch (423)
wuf 5, boog 5, baud 1


rong on boog, based on 'I'm not over the moon with his lynch but not overly against it either and I think it's better than wuf. '
wuf 5, boog 6, baud 1


baudib 439 – bad wagons, moves to keybored without reasoning other than post 436 'I think we need a different counter wagon to Boog. I'm pretty sure Wuf is a horrible lynch today. '
wuf 5, boog 5, baud 1


ong 444 – moves off wuf and onto boog 'This is kinda painful because I think he's a solid player and gets way too much heat in early game when he shouldn't. That said... His aggression feels forced to me.
Wuf 4, boog 6, baud 1


keybored 447 – lynch bigred interesting link to wuf here, wuf on the block and keybored moves his vote without explaining why he thinks wuf is a bad lynch 'With your whopping 5 posts this game I suppose you're out saving the world. Strong V cred if that's the case. Smack talk for high content coming from no-content person is redonk.'
wuf 3, boog 6, baud 1


ong 461/462 rescind boog, lynch gabe 'I agree with boog. I like the tone of his defence there, furthermore I feel gabe was sketchy in his vote for boog, and certainly am still reading gabe as wolfy. '
wuf 3, boog 5 gabe 1, baud 1

hmm

lynch daven

[Luco]

Do you want us to lynch wuf first so you can ask for village cred for bussing him? Is that what you're trying to do here baudib?

No, I want you to lynch Wuf cuz he's a wolf and if you lynch me and Rilla we're gonna lose.

lol

[monstrman]

Not gonna lie, to me it looks almost like wuf is trying to make boog look like his wolfbro. I mean dude prolly knew he had a short shelf life and it's not hard to make a wolfy villager look like your bro

I could lynch him if he doesn't post well tomorrow though

[monstrman]

Thing is if boog is actually a villager wolves are winning this game period so I don't want to take the risk of his mislynch lightly

[monstrman]

That is to say that boog has had heat on him, not that I've found him wolfy. Haven't sensed an agenda from him actually he's just absent

[Luco]

I agree with you monstr, if there is a wolf in ong / baud then boog is probably a villager.

I can't find anything anywhere near as clearing for ong as I can for baudib. A couple of posts but nothing outside of ong's wolf range.

Rascal has some good posts about wuf and so does rilla

Oddly I can't find anything to clear drew.

mojo, monstr, rilla, baudib all pretty much cleared imo

Ong
Daven
boog
drew
bigred

wolves are in here. All three of daven, ong, boog said wuf was wolfy but not when it mattered.

[Luco]

For poast gaym

Daven Ong drew

[baudib]

We are not lynching Daven.

[Luco]

#1715

alright let's CFD Keybored

Not a good look.

[Luco]

We are not lynching Daven.

This is correct.

As it stands, we are lynching you.

[baudib]

#1013, click the little arrows to read it in context


This looks really, really good for baudib and rilla and bad for boog. Look how wishy washy wuf is over boog. He has a fence sitting paragraph and then most future references to boog are vicarious via the voting.

Keybored also gets more v-points btw.

I explained this earlier -- there are no Keybored-Wuf interactions except for Keybored talking about how great Wuf's posting style is and Wuf giving him the thumbs-up. Then Wuf randomly tosses in Keybored in the "for post game" prediction whereas he went to great lengths to call everyone else in his list a wolf. This is classic Rule of 4.

[OngBonga]

What, you're clearing baudib for his attack on wuf? What happened when I got cleared for attacking rilla last time I was wolf?

If baudib is a wolf, then, just like me, he'd put some pressure on at least one wolf. Luco is right to not give me too many v points for slapping wuf about, but he should be equally as worried about baudib because despite his in thread performance, baudib is a thinking wolf and will make some very good moves.

I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't. I'm tone reading him HARD as a wolf. He has done so much to convince me he's a wolf, there's just no way I can take these blinkers off. Until he's dead, I'm gonna take a back seat, because all this noise is not good for the village. Baudib too would do well to just stfu and let everyone else talk.

[Luco]

I explained this earlier -- there are no Keybored-Wuf interactions except for Keybored talking about how great Wuf's posting style is and Wuf giving him the thumbs-up. Then Wuf randomly tosses in Keybored in the "for post game" prediction whereas he went to great lengths to call everyone else in his list a wolf. This is classic Rule of 4.

You would be wise not to attack keybored in front of me.

[baudib]

I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.

lol

I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.
I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't.

[Luco]

What, you're clearing baudib for his attack on wuf? What happened when I got cleared for attacking rilla last time I was wolf?

If baudib is a wolf, then, just like me, he'd put some pressure on at least one wolf. Luco is right to not give me too many v points for slapping wuf about, but he should be equally as worried about baudib because despite his in thread performance, baudib is a thinking wolf and will make some very good moves.

I don't give a fuck who baudib has voted for and who he hasn't. I'm tone reading him HARD as a wolf. He has done so much to convince me he's a wolf, there's just no way I can take these blinkers off. Until he's dead, I'm gonna take a back seat, because all this noise is not good for the village. Baudib too would do well to just stfu and let everyone else talk.

Rilla didn't fight back. It's the decent back and forth between baud-wuf that I'm giving him credit for.

[OngBonga]

Quote the last sentence of that post baudib, in pretty colours.

[OngBonga]

Rilla didn't fight back. It's the decent back and forth between baud-wuf that I'm giving him credit for.

If you think that baudib/wuf wolf bussies are incapable of coming up with this as a plan, then it's no wonder you're regularly clearing at least one wolf. Last time I was wolf, you were hardcore reading me as villager. Last game you were hardcore clearing another wolf. You have a great brain but you're easy to pull the wool over.

[OngBonga]

It's also worth noting that my attack on rilla was not planned, it was me frustrated with him for being a shit wolf.

[Luco]

If you think that baudib/wuf wolf bussies are incapable of coming up with this as a plan, then it's no wonder you're regularly clearing at least one wolf. Last time I was wolf, you were hardcore reading me as villager. Last game you were hardcore clearing another wolf. You have a great brain but you're easy to pull the wool over.

Quote that last sentence in pretty colours!

[baudib]

Yes that's right folks, Ong wants you to lynch who he wants lynched while he votes for the villager in V-W wagons each day. Because voting for wolves over villagers is not the type acceptable behavior in his village.

[baudib]

Yes that's right folks, Ong wants you to lynch who he wants lynched while he votes for the villager in V-W wagons each day. Because voting for wolves over villagers is not the type acceptable behavior in his village.

^wolfy shrooping

[OngBonga]

Does anyone remeber baudib telling us he ISO'd everyone? Did anyone actually try to ISO anyone here to see how much of a fucking ballache that is? I've caught baudib lying several times, I only wish I could be bothered to ISO him to highlight his bullshit, but I can't be arsed because it's a huge fucking ballache.

[OngBonga]

Anyway I'm not doing this for another IRL day.

Just lynch one of me or baudib and be done with this insantiy.

[Luco]

Does anyone remeber baudib telling us he ISO'd everyone? Did anyone actually try to ISO anyone here to see how much of a fucking ballache that is? I've caught baudib lying several times, I only wish I could be bothered to ISO him to highlight his bullshit, but I can't be arsed because it's a huge fucking ballache.

I will ISO boog if you like, 40 posts is ez

Baudib has 450 or so, fuck that

[Luco]

I explained this earlier -- there are no Keybored-Wuf interactions except for Keybored talking about how great Wuf's posting style is and Wuf giving him the thumbs-up. Then Wuf randomly tosses in Keybored in the "for post game" prediction whereas he went to great lengths to call everyone else in his list a wolf. This is classic Rule of 4.

People wuf interacts with:

mojo
baud
ong
rilla


keybored is just one of MANY people that wuf doesn't really interact with, including me.

[baudib]

ISOing Ong is easy too, all you have to do is find 2 posts where he defends the guy the wolf made a wolfy vote to save (Boog), and then spinning this into "baudib is a wolf for saying Boog is a wolf" ... that's the totality of Ong's game.

[baudib]

People wuf interacts with:

mojo
baud
ong
rilla


keybored is just one of MANY people that wuf doesn't really interact with, including me.

but he didn't randomly insert you into his "for post game" list.

[baudib]

Anyway I'm not doing this for another IRL day.

Just lynch one of me or baudib and be done with this insantiy.

no, no, you die after Boog and Keybored.

[OngBonga]

no, no, you die after Boog and Keybored.

This is suboptimal for the village, which of course you are well aware of. Let's assume I die today. Well I flip villager, and at the very least people start to see that I'm sincere. So then people lynch you, and you flip wolf. Boog suddenly does not need to be lynched.

All you are doing here is showing me how much you need the boog/monstr mislynch. You are totally unprepared to listen to any reason why he could be a villager, and want him gone before you die and show him to be a villager.

[baudib]

I will ISO boog if you like, 40 posts is ez

Baudib has 450 or so, fuck that

I'm posting at 1/5th my normal rate.

[baudib]

This is suboptimal for the village, which of course you are well aware of. Let's assume I die today. Well I flip villager, and at the very least people start to see that I'm sincere. So then people lynch you, and you flip wolf. Boog suddenly does not need to be lynched.

All you are doing here is showing me how much you need the boog/monstr mislynch. You are totally unprepared to listen to any reason why he could be a villager, and want him gone before you die and show him to be a villager.

Boog was always more of a wolf than Wuf, who was actually a wolf. The reason Keybored goes first is Keybored is the final wolf among the 2 of you who can win. you can't.

[OngBonga]

If baudib is a villager, and thinks I'm a wolf, why in fuck's name does he want boog first?

[baudib]

If baudib is a villager, and thinks I'm a wolf, why in fuck's name does he want boog first?

Boog is 100% a wolf, you're only like 99.8% wolf.

why in fuck's name have you spent the entire game trying to defend Boog, who is never a villager?

[baudib]

Plus I'll need like 3-4 days to prepare for the Ong-Baud showdown, where I really rip into Ong. I'm just playing with him now.

[Luco]

Plus I'll need like 3-4 days to prepare for the Ong-Baud showdown, where I really rip into Ong. I'm just playing with him now.

You're going to die today baudib. Nobody will rescind you. Who is on your wagon right now?

[Luco]

Mod Corner

Vote Count!
(5) Baudib: Ongbonga, Boog, Keybored, a500lbgorilla, Madmojomonkey
(1) Boog: Baudib
(1) Ongbonga: Luco
(1) Keybored: Lilrascal

(Im in class, so this count may have errors)

Do you mind if I glue up?

Day 3 Ends in ~48 hours. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Rilla rescinded and daven hopped on. None of ong boog keybored are voting anyone else today, probably daven too.

Your grand ideas of battling ong in three days time ain't gon happen

[Luco]

Once jkds is back in I'll maj this one with rilla, no point trying to catch a falling knife

[Luco]

On re-read, mojo rescinded too so actually you're at -3 right now

Last time bigred pulled this shit I promised I would policy lynch him the next time he played.

[Luco]

FINAL VOTES END OF DAY 2

Wufwugy (8): Baudib, Monstrman, rascal, Rilla, Hoopy, Luco, Madmojomonkey, Keybored
Baudib (4): Boog, Ongbonga, Bankitdrew, Daven

Not voting: Wufwugy, Bigred

3 wolves in here. I doubt none were on wuf. I also doubt all three were on wuf.

Ong, if baud is a wolf why wasn't there a third, wolf-free wagon on d2?

Key and I tried to get a dav-red lynch going but baudib slammed the brakes on it, pushing wuf-hoopy and boog-monstr instead.

[OngBonga]

FINAL VOTES END OF DAY 2

Wufwugy (8): Baudib, Monstrman, rascal, Rilla, Hoopy, Luco, Madmojomonkey, Keybored
Baudib (4): Boog, Ongbonga, Bankitdrew, Daven

Not voting: Wufwugy, Bigred

3 wolves in here. I doubt none were on wuf. I also doubt all three were on wuf.

Ong, if baud is a wolf why wasn't there a third, wolf-free wagon on d2?

Key and I tried to get a dav-red lynch going but baudib slammed the brakes on it, pushing wuf-hoopy and boog-monstr instead.

boog/monstr was the attempted wagon, but I was hardcore blocking it. baudib and wuf come up with a plan that will give baudib village cred, which when coupled with rilla's cred, allows him to coast. Meanwhile, when wuf flips wolf, baudib already knows how he's going to use the flip to make boog look bad. baudib didn't realise that actually boog doesn't look so bad, it's ONLY the argument that wuf was saving him that holds any water. But it's super thin, because there are reasons why wuf would do it when both wagons are v/v (gabe/rong is a huge mislynch that baudib is ignoring); furthermore boog's tone is super standard, and boog's activity is super standard.

There is no reason that baudibshould be thisconfident that boog is a wolf. None whatsoever. Not one single person has posted a legitimate case on boog. baudib posted some sht, but it's as thin as me saying you're a wolf because your role pm says so. It's just noise.

This always happens with boog. He always gets heat, and I always recognise it for what it is and slam the brakes on his lynch. I usually only ever delay it, and boog is yet to punish my protection by flipping wolf.

[OngBonga]

Thing is if boog is actually a villager wolves are winning this game period so I don't want to take the risk of his mislynch lightly

Not if we get baudib first.

This is why baudib wants boog before me. He knows that once he flips wolf, boog is unlynchable.

[baudib]

Oh i'm not getting lynched. This village isn't gonna be that stupid.

[baudib]

Back in the Ghost Angel game that was super wolf heavy, Ong loved the idea of the wolves voting together.

This game we have Boog-Ong-Keybored voting together in bloc 3 times. no one finds that curious?

[baudib]

There is no reason that baudibshould be thisconfident that boog is a wolf. None whatsoever. Not one single person has posted a legitimate case on boog. baudib posted some sht, but it's as thin as me saying you're a wolf because your role pm says so. It's just noise.

Boog should be the priority lynch based on the purity of the wagon alone, or for being the counter wagon to a villager lynch in a tight vote.

Or the fact that all the wolves voted to save him.

put them all together and Boog is slam-dunk 1000% wolf always.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@JKDS: thank you
@key: water off a duck's back

PLZ NO HAMMER.

I have too many villagers. I had baud and Luco as my 2 most likely wolves, then Luco showed up this morning, so I have to revamp.

I have 4 hours of work, and 1,200 posts to finish before I can possibly feel informed, given the wuf flip.

I will not be doing another full read-through after this of D1,D2... I've taken notes and I can dig / skim for the info after this.
I don't think I'm the only one who has said they didn't finish their D3 full-thread read-through... if I am, then disregard.

My vote is considered to be on baud for now, for practical purposes of "Why isn't MMM voting?"


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I'd say that I stand by my read that Ong-baud have thrown down the "We're never V-V" gauntlet.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh i'm not getting lynched. This village isn't gonna be that stupid.

Keep calling me stupid and see how long it takes before I do something stupid.

Fun experiment, you got there baud... not really beneficial to the Village, though.

[OngBonga]

It's still very obvious to me that baudib is a wolf. If I were on the brink of lynch, I wouldn't be dicking about saying adamantly that I wasn't getting lynched. I'd be looking for the wolves. But that's because I'm a villager. What he's doing is he's putting his fingers in his ears and making silly noises. I don't see why a villager does that as he goes down. He'll naturally argue he's found the wolves, but if baudib was actually a villager, he wouldn't be so stubborn about this because most villagers, even me, when we attempt to soulread the whole team, have doubt. Even fucking wuf has doubt when he posts soulreads like that. baudib doesn't though. Why? Because it's bollocks.

baudib's strategy is to attempt to dominate discussion in the hope that his agenda pushes through.

[baudib]

It's actually perfect that Boog-Ong-Keybored-Daven are all voting for me.

Villagers, if you don't have all 3 of the remaining wolves in this group, you need to reassess.

[baudib]

I have too many villagers. I had baud and Luco as my 2 most likely wolves, then Luco showed up this morning, so I have to revamp.

If the result of the Wuf flip doesn't tell you Luco and I are villagers, then you need to stop reading and just throw darts.

[Luco]

It's still very obvious to me that baudib is a wolf. If I were on the brink of lynch, I wouldn't be dicking about saying adamantly that I wasn't getting lynched. I'd be looking for the wolves. But that's because I'm a villager. What he's doing is he's putting his fingers in his ears and making silly noises. I don't see why a villager does that as he goes down. He'll naturally argue he's found the wolves, but if baudib was actually a villager, he wouldn't be so stubborn about this because most villagers, even me, when we attempt to soulread the whole team, have doubt. Even fucking wuf has doubt when he posts soulreads like that. baudib doesn't though. Why? Because it's bollocks.

baudib's strategy is to attempt to dominate discussion in the hope that his agenda pushes through.

Mentally both you and baudib have been through wolftown and villa village at least twice today

Baud hates a davred lynch
you hate a boogstr lynch

we're being railroaded into voting one of you and baud, by you and baud

[baudib]

It's still very obvious to me that baudib is a wolf. If I were on the brink of lynch, I wouldn't be dicking about saying adamantly that I wasn't getting lynched. I'd be looking for the wolves. But that's because I'm a villager. What he's doing is he's putting his fingers in his ears and making silly noises. I don't see why a villager does that as he goes down. He'll naturally argue he's found the wolves, but if baudib was actually a villager, he wouldn't be so stubborn about this because most villagers, even me, when we attempt to soulread the whole team, have doubt. Even fucking wuf has doubt when he posts soulreads like that. baudib doesn't though. Why? Because it's bollocks.

baudib's strategy is to attempt to dominate discussion in the hope that his agenda pushes through.

It's because we've never had a wolf team tie themselves to each other so strongly before. This format probably demands it since there's no night kill.