Vikings, Gods and Giants Game thread

[lilrascal]

CHARTZ with just the live players

Player	How Died	Flip	D1 Vote	D1 Votes(407)	D2 Vote	D2 Votes(572)	D3 Vote	D3 Votes(xxx)
Daven			Monstr	MMM(275), Monstr(280)	Wuf	MMM(541), Wuf(543)	Rong	Rong(624)
Dhubermex/lilrascal			BID	BID(138)			Rong	Rong(734)
Gabe			Ong	Ong(212)	Boog	Boog(445)	Rascal	Wuf(797), Hoopy(802), Rascal(807)
JKDS			Key	Key(151)	Wuf	Wuf(454), Unlynch(519), Wuf(522)	Hoopy	Gabe(653), Luco (697), Hoopy(733)
Luco			Ong	Ong(23), Gabe(294), Daven(369), Ong(402)		Rong(466), Rescind(525)	Gabe	JKDS(617), Rong (684), Gabe(783)
Wufwugy			Hoopy	Rong(89), Hoopy(226)	Rong	Boog(451), Rong(474), Boog(507), Unbold(532), Rong(550)	Rong	Rong(593)

you wolf, jkds sk

dont call it a comeback, i been here for years

If you've thought JKDS was the SK "for years" why did you NEVER vote him?

[wufwugy]

the easiest way to lock in a loss would have been to try to lynch the sk

[wufwugy]

Any villa would be a mislynch, including me.

circles circles circles

[wufwugy]

So, when I flip the villa angel. The village can blame this loss on you if you're actually villa.

i like how you keep saying "villa angel" since you have known for a while that hoopy was a wolf angel

to use villagers, it's just angel

[lilrascal]

the easiest way to lock in a loss would have been to try to lynch the sk

Why is that when the SK can get a kill each night?

I think you're the one going in circles.

[lilrascal]

i like how you keep saying "villa angel" since you have known for a while that hoopy was a wolf angel

to use villagers, it's just angel

Hoopy was a wolf JOAT, not a wolf angel. Keep your facts straight.

[wufwugy]

Why is that when the SK can get a kill each night?

I think you're the one going in circles.

v win calculus does not include sk death. it is exclusively wolf death. given how hard wolf death is normally, if we were to focus on anything otehr than wolf death, we would have probabilistically confirmed our loss

[lilrascal]

Wuf seems locked where he is, so we need a villa to step up and change their vote or vote Gabe.

If it ends in a 2-2 tie, I die and the wolves mislynch the villa angel.

[wufwugy]

you're in the lead sucka. you live as long as jkds or luco dont show their blowsy asses up before eod and bold you

or if the sk chooses to lose as well by not shooting you

[wufwugy]

you're not in the lead, i mean

[wufwugy]

why am i even talking to a wolf

[lilrascal]

gabe 2 (lilrascal, Luco)
Luco 1 (gabe)
lilrascal 1 (wufwugy)

Latest vote count. I was looking at earlier one.

[lilrascal]

why am i even talking to a wolf

That's what I keep asking myself. You're howling is getting old.

[wufwugy]

That's what I keep asking myself. You're howling is getting old.

there is no way you could actually believe this if you were villager. if im wolf, im loving the gabe/luco lynches

[gabe]

the longer the others wait, the more it helps the wolves. if they arent here, theres nothing i can do. if they arent sure, i have something worth sharing. but its not worth it if i dont have to

[wufwugy]

share what you can. theyre unlikely to be back. luco is probably in a slobbering sleep and jkds probably wouldnt consider it a priority to get back in time since he's loki. daven is sometimes online about a half hour before the scheduled eod time, but who knows if he'll get on when he wakes up or whatever

[JKDS]

FNM ran long, I is here

[JKDS]

I, the OG wufinator, am really good at fake claiming and really good at identifying fake claims. Rascal's looks fake.

But

Whos the angel then?

[wufwugy]

daven is

[wufwugy]

daven is the only one that makes sense

[JKDS]

i've been offline for 48hrs, will be on and off erratically now for the next few days

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nice save angel = that's what happened right? wolf kill got blocked?
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six players left, angel and angel's save and me confirmed not wolf
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angel should think on whether an out now would win the game for us, risk is that the last wolf has some ability that would be unlocked if the angel outs. need to think on it some more

gabe seems pretty heavenly villa right now.

Eh, this looks a lot like an angel claim from daven. He even hints that he protected gabe. The only thing weird is that he includes himself, the angel, and the save, when thats really only 2 people if hes the angel.

[wufwugy]

i dont even think the special claim is relevant to the calculus. if it's real, an anti-claim surely will happen, which means something like the wolf could get an extra nom or a self-protect or something


besides, rascal didnt even truly claim. he didnt give his name because he doesnt know the angel name beucase hes not the angel

[JKDS]

Why would an anti-claim happen? If he isnt the wolf, then the wolf is super happy seeing him die. Fuck maybe hes loki

And I dont think giving a name is ever a good idea. Even stating the power seems bad. Thats why i asked you only if you had a power, not what it was or your name. A wolf day vig at 12min to deadline would be devastating.

[wufwugy]

oh i meant anti-claim mechanism

if rascal is real, it has to mean that an anti-claim mechanism like a new power to the wolf happens

but he's not real because he didnt give his name because he doesnt know it because he's fake

[wufwugy]

day ends in ten minutes dude

bold that rascal ass

[gabe]

without talking about pms, there was a clear reason to me why boog's description seemed like he had voting powers. and the clear reason makes me a villager

[JKDS]

Thats whats giving me the most pause gabe. He outed as angel, and made the same tell you did. He says he didnt earn the power, which is consistent with him not knowing about that phrase

[wufwugy]

FINISH HIM

[JKDS]

Eh its gotta be him.

Lynch rascal

[wufwugy]

has to be

would be insane not to be

[wufwugy]

if he's not the wolf i may have a mental breakdown

[lilrascal]

Mod Corner

Friendly reminder that all players have been given a character name, and the wolves and neutral know the names of a few key characters or deities who are not in the game.

There were potential pitfalls built into the game for either villagers or wolves to claim a name.

This is the reason I didn't give my name. Anyone lynching me is a wolf or just bad at werewolf.

[wufwugy]

nah i won't, but goddamn that would be so crazy

[lilrascal]

if he's not the wolf i may have a mental breakdown

Be prepared for your mental breakdown.

[lilrascal]

GL villas. Lynch Wuf.

[JKDS]

Wait, its wuf? You loki at least?

[JKDS]

Well I guess thats it. Tomorrow should be pretty easy at least.

[wufwugy]

friday night is nutlow ending time

[baudib]

Lilrascal was lynched

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You are Lagertha, shield maiden of Kattegat. Your beauty is matched only by your bravery and wisdom. You were the first wife of Ragnar Lodbrok and the mother of his eldest son.

Once per day cycle you may choose 1 player to protect. Once under this protection, any lethal attack on this player will be reduced by a -50% chance.

You may not protect the same player two days in a row and you may only protect yourself once per game.

You are a villager and win when all threats to the village are eliminated.

[baudib]

FFS YOU DON'T LYNCH PEOPLE WHO MAKE CHARTZ

I am flying to Miami in morning. PM a500lbgorilla with night actions by 1 p.m.

IT IS NIGHT

[baudib]

LOKI HAS A MESSAGE FOR YOU

[baudib]

HAHA, I WIN SUCKAZ

[a500lbgorilla]

::: choking chickens :::

::: scattering bones :::

::: diving prophecy :::

Daven's ass is dead

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You are Bjorn Lothbrok. You are the first born son of Ragnar Lothbrok, earl of Kattegat. You were named Bjorn Ironside by your father after surviving a lost battle with the British unscathed.

You are a vanilla villager. You are the heart of the game and your vote is your weapon.

You may acquire new abilities as the game progresses.

You win when all threats to the village are eliminated.

[a500lbgorilla]

Keith, a vanilla villager, shot Day 1
OngBonga, a wolf day vig, lynched Day 1
Monstrman, a village vig, killed Night 1
Keybored, a vanilla villager, killed Night 1
BankItDrew, a village seer, killed Night 1
Boog, a vanilla villager, lynched Day 2
MadMojoMonkey, a vanilla villager, killed Night 2
Rong, a vanilla villager, lynched Day 3
Hoopy, a wolf JOAT, killed night 3
lilrascal, a village half-angel, lynched Day 4
daven, a vanilla villager, killed Night 4


The Living
Gabe
JKDS
Luco
Wufwugy

1 Frost Giant
1 Trickster God
2 Vikings


IT IS DAY 5. A MUST LYNCH DAY. ONCE YOU LYNCH, IT WILL NEVER CHANGE, CARVED INTO THE IRON HEART OF ODIN HIMSELF

[JKDS]

SCREW YOU WOLF

I am Loki, and I honestly have no idea who the wolf is. It may even be wufwugy, because I never actually looked him up. (I looked up rong, obv). It probably isnt though, because he'd have shot me instead of daven.

Wolf stole my win though by shooting daven, so I'm gonna try and win with the village. Besides, he might shoot me tonight and make me lose my neutral win. Village all the way!

Hey wuf, did you like how I imitated your posting style? I wanted you to spazz out and show me you were villa, with the additional strong chance that you get lynched because lol loki lies. Shame.

[JKDS]

Whats neat, was that the posting style of like, no capitals, no punctuation, and few commas fits with each of luco/gabe/wuf. How are none of you dead? Wolf didnt seem to even care about killing loki

[wufwugy]

im heimdall, the tracker and targeter.

n1 daven visited nobody
n2 jkds visited nobody
n3 hoopy visited daven and luco
n4 gabe killed daven

"killed" is the word used


baud told me i am not a power role, so i expect there can be no anti claiming mechanism. i originally assumed merely saying you have a power was enough to trigger an anti-claiming mechanism, but apparently that isnt true. sorry to rascal, the fact that you claimed is the main reason i attacked you so hard. i guess i misinterpreted the rules. i decided on the first day that i wouldnt claim my role in any defense since it's basically that a baddy would get a power to kill me, like how ong did to kill monstr. it appears my understanding of the rules was incorrect and that you had a different understanding of them.

also the fact that the days were part of the angel calculus. i thought it was a bad idea to track anybody before the lynch, and i figured the angel would have thought the same thing. i thought for sure your out had to be fake for those reasons.


the targetting for death curse yielded no results (except maybe helping monstr shoot keybored), but i doubt it. i didnt even target anybody on n4. the tracking is the only thing that yielded any results

[JKDS]

Thats consistent with what youve said/done previously, and I think the wolf is very likely gabe.

BUT

You saw daven didnt visit anyone, doesnt that mean he wasnt an angel a high percentage of the time? Why were you so gung ho when it appears daven wasnt a special?

[wufwugy]

Whats neat, was that the posting style of like, no capitals, no punctuation, and few commas fits with each of luco/gabe/wuf. How are none of you dead? Wolf didnt seem to even care about killing loki

loki is such a powerful and dangerous character because the village cant focus on him, so the wolves have to. but the wolf still has incentive not to

[Luco]

GG guys, toldja gabe was a wolf

I havent been this angry at a game in a while. pissed at keith, then ong then jkds

ong and jkds flipping bad guy means faith in humanity restored

[wufwugy]

Thats consistent with what youve said/done previously, and I think the wolf is very likely gabe.

BUT

You saw daven didnt visit anyone, doesnt that mean he wasnt an angel a high percentage of the time? Why were you so gung ho when it appears daven wasnt a special?

self-protect. it's what i figured he did for the n3 block too

i thoguht that since daven was so afk, he must have told baud he doesn't have much choice but to self-protect by default. also i think daven would self-protect a lot since he was a probable nom target

[JKDS]

<3 luco

[wufwugy]

do we know anything that can prove gabe is the wolf? like order of night action?

[JKDS]

Its just a question of you or him at this point. Its suicide to counter claim Loki for obv reasons. So either you are lying or Gabe is the wolf

[wufwugy]

i think we should all expect that we're gonna lynch gabe. ofc im not bolding yet though. i really want to find some damning piece of evidence that shows he's not the sk instead

[wufwugy]

Its just a question of you or him at this point. Its suicide to counter claim Loki for obv reasons. So either you are lying or Gabe is the wolf

why is it suicide to counter claim loki?

[JKDS]

Maybe its not obv then. We'll see if he tries.

[JKDS]

No, I dont want to win that way. I can post Loki speaks messages. I can modconfirm my role essentially.

[wufwugy]

just as long as it doesnt trigger any sort of counter or break rules

after yesterday, i have discovered i dont even understand the rules

[wufwugy]

oh shit i may have noticed something. it looks like ong never attacked any of those who were on his wagon. this could suggest he knew his death was locked in stone, which would mean both wolves were on his wagon. jkds was not on his wagon

[wufwugy]

i guess it should be noted that ong only died because monstr claimed. that helps the idea that gabe is a wolf since neither hoopy nor gabe put much effort into killing ong. they just wanted the hedge

gabe has done this in the past. he didnt do it in his latest wolf game, but he did it in the one previous

[wufwugy]

fuuuuuuuuck i misread something significant last night. when i said gabe was never a wolf because of his rascal rescind that put him in the lead near eod, i didnt realize that IT WAS JKDS WHO HAD JUST BEFORE THAT PUT GABE IN THE LEAD BY RESCIND OF RASCAL

[wufwugy]

man without my misreading of that and especially of the claiming rules, i think there's a good chance gabe would have been lynched yesterday instead of rascal

super sorry rascalbro. im sure the dead thread has called me honorary wolf a dozen times already

[wufwugy]

well i reread all of gabes posts and those related to him. i havent found much that can conclusively show that he's not the sk. however, i do think it is far more probable that jkds is the sk. that was my original read, and i think it was right. the loki speaks reads like jkds prose more than gabe prose (gabe doesnt think to say things like "you're welcome" snidely, also i think doing imitations is more jkds' style than gabe's). there was also no sk vig death on n2, which is when i tracked jkds.

i think it has to be gabe. but im going to wait to see if he can put up a loki speaks message. if jkds can, then im bodling gabe. if gabe can, im bodling jkds. if neither can, im bolding gabe

[wufwugy]

well that's only if i have confirmation that only loki can send it

the ambiguity of the rules is just gah

[gabe]

i was looking forward to sniffing out who the bad guy was but wuf has made it easy
lynch wuf

im floki the boring ass ship builder. im a vanilla villager who got the triple vote on day 3. i tried to allude to this but didnt do a good job. i said something like "its very important i pick the right person"

wuf you made a well conceived play to open the day but you fucked it up by stating your daven reads. it makes no sense for you to convince us you believed daven was angel. it might have been smart yesterday, but if you were really a tracker then you would not stick with that read. i understand you telling us he was the angel because you wanted lilrascal to die, but sticking with that story is pointless. with your info, its not believable that you thought daven had a real chance at being the angel. but you stuck with that possibility to get rascal killed

im not sure how i can make jkds and luco see this. can loki dayvig wuf or something?

[gabe]

wuf dont act like you figured shit out all of a sudden. you know nothing. except how to make a sick fake claim on the last day

[gabe]

jkds does loki do shit at night? like n2?

[Luco]

im floki the boring ass ship builder. im a vanilla villager who got the triple vote on day 3. i tried to allude to this but didnt do a good job. i said something like "its very important i pick the right person"

Huh, I thought a wolf got it day 3

THE BLIND SEER SPEAKS



"You fools! Spurning the gifts of the gods! Fate is cruelly ironic. Your enemies will not make the same mistake."

[wufwugy]

gabe since you claimed loki, it would mean to you that jkds is the wolf since he claimed loki. the fact that you bold me shows that you're indeed the wolf. also the fact that you claimed loki instead of my role, tracker and targeter, it means that i am indeed the true tracker and targeter

lynch gabe

jkds and luco, it's all in your hands. if you have any questions ask. this is for all the marbles

[wufwugy]

wuf dont act like you figured shit out all of a sudden

fwiw i won't claim that. i think you played a stellar, sophisticated wolf game. we dont get that many sophisticated wolf games around here that often. it's a big reason why i kept putting other players ahead of you on the wolf spectrum

you even did something that ive never seen a wolf do. so hats off to that

[wufwugy]

oh goddamn i just reread and you said floki not loki

[wufwugy]

i thought that was just a typo and got super excited since i knew a loki claim would mean you're absolutely the wolf

[wufwugy]

regardless, my second point still stands

you did not claim tracker and targeter. the only unclaimed person is luco, but i know for a fact he is not the sk or wolf since jkds claimed sk and i know you killed daven last night

[wufwugy]

actually, we all now know that you are not sk. if you were sk, you would have claimed sk and bolded jkds. if you were tracker and targeter you would have claimed that

there we go. there's our proof