Vikings, Gods and Giants Game thread

[Luco]

rescind rascal

until theres a counterclaim

[lilrascal]

rescind rascal

until theres a counterclaim

If there is then they're a lock wolf.

[Luco]

Regardless of your role there should be another claim, right?

[Luco]

guys we never lynch here with no counterclaim

[baudib]

rascal 2 (JKDS, gabe)
gabe 1 (Rascal)

EOD in 6 hours.

[gabe]

am i reading this right

"Angel -- Angel abilities last for one day/night cycle."

we believe the voting power was for one day 1 only. is the angel stuff like that too? did rascal just claim the wrong thing?

[lilrascal]

am i reading this right

"Angel -- Angel abilities last for one day/night cycle."

we believe the voting power was for one day 1 only. is the angel stuff like that too? did rascal just claim the wrong thing?

Go read the OP for the information.

Also, the reason that Luko was only protected for N2 as I stated is because that's when I subbed in and no angel was submitted prior to that.

One of the reasons I've been trying so hard to get some reactions was so that I would make the right decision on who to Angel. Based on the no NK last night, I was right in angeling Daven.

[Luco]

the 'no protection d2' line is a pretty tricksy move for a wolf to pull

I believe rascal

[Luco]

lynch gabe

[lilrascal]

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Other powers
Certain characters will have the ability to perform the following tasks or may earn the ability to perform these tasks:

Angel -- Angel abilities last for one day/night cycle. That is, the player with this ability may choose a target to protect, and that player's chance of dying from a lethal action (vig or night kill) is decreased by 50% for an entire cycle -- the protection does not wear off until start of the next day. The target may be chosen at any time, but a target chosen at night will not be protected once day breaks.

Targeter -- May choose 2 targets per cycle who will suffer a 50% increased chance of dying. For example, if the targeter and vig both choose Player A, that player will then have a 100% chance of dying, barring any angel actions.

Tracker -- can learn the target of a single player

Roleblocker -- blocks a single player

Triple voter -- Player's vote will count triple for 1 game day.

Day vig -- Can shoot 1 player during the day phase.

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IMPORTANT
There are anti-claiming mechanisms in the game. Power characters, claim your name or role at your own risk! There may be an adversary that is looking for you!

[B]************************************************** *******

This is from the OP. As it states some characters will have "Other Powers" and some can be earned. My Angel power is one that the character had and was not earned like the tripler voter power was. Go and look at Thor's power. It was a character power, not an earned power.

[lilrascal]

The above is also why I didn`t want to claim. I'm not sure what anti-claiming mechanisms are in place.

[wufwugy]

gollie

[wufwugy]

i have opinions but i'll put them together concisely shortly

[JKDS]

unvote, because somebody clearly protected somebody else.

I still dont think luco can be a wolf here, not given the almost extreme buddying that he and hoopy did to each other beginning on day2.

[Luco]

unvote, because somebody clearly protected somebody else.

I still dont think luco can be a wolf here, not given the almost extreme buddying that he and hoopy did to each other beginning on day2.

I'm drunk again and this makes me smile

pretty sure like 50% of my posts are defending hoopy, oopsie

[wufwugy]

if gabe is a wolf, he has played the best wolf game we've ever seen. i do not think he's a wolf

daven is off the table. if he's a wolf it means rascal can't be a wolf nor the sk (dhubs was absent and couldnt have sent loki speaks). daven is the lockiest lock clear now

i dont think luco bolds ong like that if he's a wolf. like what got me off the boog wagon, to make the case that luco is a wolf you have to believe that luco chose to stop a mislynch on a special in order to get a lynch on a wolf. he is a wolf some >0%, but it's a very tiny percentage. almost all the time somebody does what luco did, they're a villager

jkds is still my pick for sk.



rascal's rationale about how hoopy cant be wolf due to what he said about ong and dhubs is quite weak, because what hoopy said couldnt be reasonably thought to have any force behind it. it was more of a side comment. rascal is reaching for straws

hoopy's behavior around and bold of dhubs is very much in line with how wolves handle afk wolves. dhubs' last post was its face attacking bid and praising ong at a time when bid was the only person attacking ong. if anybody plays wolf on its face, it is probably the guy who opens games with "im a vanilla villager" every time he's a vanilla villager. mojo talked a lot about it but nobody cared, that this is the only game dhubs didnt call himself vanilla villager.

[wufwugy]

about rascal's claim, it's not a smart thing to do if he's angel. when monstr claimed it gave a wolf an extra dayvig

[wufwugy]

the hardclaim is absolutely something the wolf would do here, because it actually helps the wolf if the real angel claims. well, if the real angel claims and gets lynched. notice that rascal quickly said if another angel claims, that's the fake one

[wufwugy]

daven is not a bad choice nom/angel choice since he was the only virtually cleared player last night. everybody else has at least one other person who thinks he's wolfy

[wufwugy]

if the anti-claiming punishment gives the wolves some form of extra kill (i dont see why it wouldnt), it might be numerically better to completely ignore it

im not entirely sure yet, but it might actually be easier for the village to lose if we mislynch and then the wolves get two noms

[Luco]

I am so smashed

I can't believe I can still type

[JKDS]

I agree with all of that wuf, but the only way Rascal's claim is false is if 1) Daven is the angel, or 2) you are. Somebody protected somebody last night.

Ong got extra dayvig powers cuz thor revealed his name or role in thread. So lets not reveal roles. Wuf, do you have a power?

[gabe]

i dont think luco bolds ong like that if he's a wolf. like what got me off the boog wagon, to make the case that luco is a wolf you have to believe that luco chose to stop a mislynch on a special in order to get a lynch on a wolf. he is a wolf some >0%, but it's a very tiny percentage. almost all the time somebody does what luco did, they're a villager

this is what ive been thinking about. its such an obvious situation for us to want to clear luco. he put the nail in the ong's coffin. if they were scheming the wolves might have come up with that lock situation. the daven lock status is from causes that cant be manufactured

[JKDS]

Read hoopy's reveal. As a JOAT, he had angel powers. Im not convinced he is necessarily the only one who could be angely though.

[gabe]

i dont think rascal's claim is a good idea if its real, but i understand that he felt pressured into it. this day did go by fast

im not set on lynching rascal but it may be best. its so hard to lynch luco, we would have to hope he was playing very fancy. and i find myself agreeing with all of jkds posts

[wufwugy]

if gabe is a wolf, it means ong gave gabe and hoops a plan to absolutely kill him on d1. i do not think d1 reads like that happened. also i think ong would be excited to wolf with gabe. he plays lots of games, so i dont think any sort of burnout on wolfing would be the type where he thinks the best course of action is to have the wolves kill him d1. the kind of burnout i talked of earlier is much different, where it could have subtly influenced his keith rationale.

d1 reads like hoopy wanted to get on ong for hedge purposes, but wasnt incredibly interested in ong dying. if gabe was also a wolf, i think the wolves would have known ong was a goner and would have wanted to make a bigger show of it. instead, gabe was on ong the way a villager who is unsure but trying to do the right thing does, and ong spent the rest of the time playing rather normally, as if he didnt know his death was locked in stone

[gabe]

rescind and lynch luco

neither one has a great case for them but its better if rascal stays alive

[gabe]

day 1 for me was a no brainer. day 1 is the most boring day and im happy to take the easy lynches then

[wufwugy]

gabe you make me think you're the sk instead of jkds

there is no way luco is a good lynch. the d1 ending scenario is so so so so hard to prep for, and even if it's prepped for, the calculus changes when monstr claims as special. besides, on the face, luco has played a much more villy game than dhubs/rascal

[baudib]

Mod Corner

Friendly reminder that all players have been given a character name, and the wolves and neutral know the names of a few key characters or deities who are not in the game.

There were potential pitfalls built into the game for either villagers or wolves to claim a name.

[gabe]

rascal whats your character info

[wufwugy]

the way i see it, the only two options for wolf are rascal and jkds

daven cant be

luco has the probability on his side. he has to be treated as confirmed

gabe is playing a game that would be incredibly hard to as a wolf. everything with him reads villy

[Luco]

the two non villagers need to raise their hand

[wufwugy]

also have to keep in mind that if anybody is gonna fakeclaim, it's a vet from a different forum. they do that shit all the time

[baudib]

[wufwugy]

we dont do it much, possibly because it almost never works

[lilrascal]

Mod Corner

Friendly reminder that all players have been given a character name, and the wolves and neutral know the names of a few key characters or deities who are not in the game.

There were potential pitfalls built into the game for either villagers or wolves to claim a name.

rascal whats your character info

I've revealed as much as I plan to.

[Luco]

we dont do it much, possibly because it almost never works

I can;t see

[lilrascal]

also have to keep in mind that if anybody is gonna fakeclaim, it's a vet from a different forum. they do that shit all the time

Monstr and I actually play on the same site. We both had to hard claim on this site to avoid the mislynch. Apparently this site finds the way we approach the game as wolfy.

[baudib]

EOD in 4 hours

gabe 2 (Rascal, Luco)
Luco 1 (gabe)

[wufwugy]

For D1/N1 Dhub angeled Gabe

you're telling us that dhubs, who posted twice, at 10:40 AM and 10:40 PM on the 13th chose to protect gabe 2 whole days before the eod. or you're saying he chose to protect gabe at some time before he knew the ong result



we got him guys. im not bolding yet, but we got him

[wufwugy]

Monstr and I actually play on the same site. We both had to hard claim on this site to avoid the mislynch. Apparently this site finds the way we approach the game as wolfy.

eh i thought monstr was clearly vil and an asset

[wufwugy]

lynch rascal

[wufwugy]

i just realized 4 hrs left on fri is not the time to sit on a pre-bold

im as convinced as i'll ever be that rascal is the wolf

[baudib]

gabe 2 (lilrascal, Luco)
Luco 1 (gabe)
lilrascal 1 (wufwugy)

[lilrascal]

you're telling us that dhubs, who posted twice, at 10:40 AM and 10:40 PM on the 13th chose to protect gabe 2 whole days before the eod. or you're saying he chose to protect gabe at some time before he knew the ong result



we got him guys. im not bolding yet, but we got him

I don't know exactly when he submitted it. I just know it happened as it was pertinent to my role.

[gabe]

im still fine with a rascal lynch. i see you guys dont want to consider the d1 luco play other than at face value. hes either a villager that got it right (which probably happens 50%) or luco knew it would give him lock status and went for it (10%?). hopefully it doesnt become something we have to consider

rescind and lynch rascal

[baudib]

[wufwugy]

fuck it looks likee we're dependent on jkds getting in here and bolding rascal

[gabe]

luco dont vote for me. you are doing it by some process of elimination instead of looking at my intentions in all my posts. i voted ong when i wasnt interested in the thread. i would have gone with my hoopy vote but i couldnt get any of you guys to follow me

[lilrascal]

lynch rascal

im still fine with a rascal lynch. i see you guys dont want to consider the d1 luco play other than at face value. hes either a villager that got it right (which probably happens 50%) or luco knew it would give him lock status and went for it (10%?). hopefully it doesnt become something we have to consider

rescind and lynch rascal

If you two are villas and stick with this vote, then the village deserves to lose this game.

[gabe]

yea fuckin bad time for luco to be in a state where hes surprised he can read

[wufwugy]

If you two are villas and stick with this vote, then the village deserves to lose this game.

it's over. even if you dont get lynched, the sk will shoot you. he cant afford not to. you'll be looking to nom him, so if he tries for the 1v1v1 win, he'll have to bank on you missing in this tiny field. but if instead he just shoots you, he wins along with the village


your case for gabe is atrocious. it's not even a case. all you've done today is defend. then after you hardclaimed (which is a bad idea for the angel) is bank on that working. you're sitting with fingers crossed instead of hunting

[gabe]

rascal i can imagine how if you are the real angel you would think that, but that doesnt make it true.

ill bold luco if you want to switch to him. it would save u from dying if jkds comes in any second and bolds you. otherwise, since i know im a villager, i need to keep myself alive which means im sticking with you

[lilrascal]

It looks like we at least know who the wolf and SK are (Gabe and Wuf).

Hopefully I angeled the correct person today/tonight and the villa makes it thru the night to get a win here.

[wufwugy]

fuckin a if jkds is the sk, he might have decided he could skip out and not even bold

[wufwugy]

It looks like we at least know who the wolf and SK are (Gabe and Wuf).

weak logic. weak weak

Hopefully I angeled the correct person today/tonight and the villa makes it thru the night to get a win here.

id be surprised if the angel ever submitted a protect at any point before the lynch reveal. there's no way in barf you thought it would be a good idea to choose your protect already

[wufwugy]

LUCO

BOLD RASCAL

NOW

[wufwugy]

LUCO LUCO LUCO LUCO

BOLD RASCAL NOW YOU FARTKNOCKER

[gabe]

its funny how ive been saying all game rascal might have some moves then he hard claims but wont give out his character info. why wouldnt a villager share this? if you are telling the truth it shouldnt matter

[wufwugy]

christ if gabe is a wolf, he NEVER debolds rascal so he can bold luco. that's suicide

[lilrascal]

I didn't want to claim, but as I said when I did it. I didn't really see another option. From what I can tell, I'm the only PR villa left and me getting NK'd is always better than me getting mislynched.

With my role hard claimed when I die tonight, the villas will know I told the truth and will hopefully still get a win.

As I posted earlier today, the villa is in a tricky spot to win this and the game could possibly end tonight if we mislynch a villa.

[gabe]

id be surprised if the angel ever submitted a protect at any point before the lynch reveal. there's no way in barf you thought it would be a good idea to choose your protect already

he would if he protects himself

thats what hes trying to insinuate

[lilrascal]

Wuf is in panic mode now.

[wufwugy]

^all bullshit. the game is already solved

[wufwugy]

^all bullshit. the game is already solved

this was directed at rascal's post explaining some bullshit

[lilrascal]

weak logic. weak weak



id be surprised if the angel ever submitted a protect at any point before the lynch reveal. there's no way in barf you thought it would be a good idea to choose your protect already

I can't discuss the mechanics of my submission.

[gabe]

christ if gabe is a wolf, he NEVER debolds rascal so he can bold luco. that's suicide

ive gone back n forth alot this game. ive tried to start mini wagons but everyone seems to react so slowly that it just looks like me spinning my wheels

[wufwugy]

Wuf is in panic mode now.

why the fuck would i be in panic mode when nobody thinks im a wolf. i have nothing to panic over, just that the game is solved yet dorkulous villagers might fuck it up

theyve done it before.

at least i care more about solving the game than getting the actual win. if you somehow pull this off, nifty. but i gotcha

[lilrascal]

If it's solved. Who is the wolf and who is the SK?

The villa needs to know both of those to get a win at this point.

[lilrascal]

why the fuck would i be in panic mode when nobody thinks im a wolf. i have nothing to panic over, just that the game is solved yet dorkulous villagers might fuck it up

theyve done it before.

at least i care more about solving the game than getting the actual win. if you somehow pull this off, nifty. but i gotcha

You're in panic mode IMO because you're either the wolf or SK. Both need a mislynch tonight.

[wufwugy]

If it's solved. Who is the wolf and who is the SK?

The villa needs to know both of those to get a win at this point.

you wolf, jkds sk

dont call it a comeback, i been here for years

[wufwugy]

You're in panic mode IMO because you're either the wolf or SK. Both need a mislynch tonight.

if i was either of those, gabe and luco would be mislynches

[lilrascal]

So, when I flip the villa angel. The village can blame this loss on you if you're actually villa.

[lilrascal]

if i was either of those, gabe and luco would be mislynches

Any villa would be a mislynch, including me.