Vikings, Gods and Giants Game thread

[Hoopy]

I guess whomever has the 3x vote, wins.

Keith, will you or someone else please fucking delete my foot in the mouth sig?

I feel like I'm not helping. On the other hand - I don't give a fuck. I'll try me best, I really will. But fuck me. I'm not going to bust my balls over this.

You know what would really help? Is if the mod gives the total vote count. God forbit, right? Obv it should happen. Anything less than than the total vote count from the mod would be fucking BS.

Baudib, will you provide us with a total vote count?

This would tell us if the 3x voter voted. This would help immensely.

If the 3x didn't vote, fuck him/her.

It still provies info.

anyone wanna bet I'm getting nommed N1? I'll have nestly bet $20 @ 2-1 that I do.

This should help both reads and $ in bank accounts. Holy shit I just offered $ to those who bet against me not dying.

Who doean't think I'll get nommed D1?

Before N1, if someone wants to bet against me saying I'm going to be a Wolf, please fucking speak up.

if you:
A) speak up by saying I'm not a villager and state the following: "BID is a wolf".

B) I'm killed before D2

C) I'm a wolf

I will ship you $20.

I guess this means I'm nommed N1

No fucking big deal because I'm vanilla.

Suck it wolves.

I'd rather take a vanilla nom D1 than any other nom.

This is literally the most +EV thing a villager can do.

For everyone, including wolves and villagers:

step your game up

I'm cocky because I feel like I can implement any image I want.

This run of posts from drew feels like a villager talking. Admittedly I find him difficult to read.

[Hoopy]

dhuber's contribution so far is 2 posts which are very weak.

JKDS has 3 posts but actually on looking back they're quite good. I'd like to hear more from him.

gabe doesn't have much, but he did vote for Ong which is a plus in my book.

So of the quiet people dhuber looks the dodgiest.

[OngBonga]

fuck, if he's doing that then it's even more stupid. Anything that contributes to confusion benefits the wolves, he's apparently very experienced at this game so he knows this. I think it's deliberate. He's wolfin'

rescind mmm, lynch monstman

This is practically a wolf claim. monstr is the triple voter, wolves should know this. I can figure it out, I'm sure at least one of three can do too.

drew pretending to not know who the triple voter is, that's dodgy as shit too.

lynch daven

[OngBonga]

daven+drew and one of hoopy/boog

[OngBonga]

monstr if I'm right or wrong about you don't confirm please. There's a chance that the triple voter has to activate his power by pm, that didn't really occur to me until after I posted. Still, I feel like the wolves will assume monstr is indeed the triple voter because luco and daven have both voted for me, and I've only ever had 4 votes max. As far as I can tell, monstr has been holding back his vote, and he said he can prove his alignment in an early post. I didn't like that at first but I left it for the time being while I figured out his motive behind it. Now I see.

[rong]

Surely the vote count won't reflect the tripple vote until day end, no?

Also we could do with some clarification on how that works. I would have assumed its a 1 shot deal when activated.

[rong]

I'm not against a raven lynch.

He said he's gonna be afk a lot and possibly won't bother to catch up with the thread.

Beyond wuf I don't have any strong suspicions anyway so daven is a reasonable option.

[OngBonga]

Well we're only going to get clarification from mod or triple voter, and we should leave the mod to do his thing as he feels best. We should *assume* he's the triple voter and leave him be, at least for today. I've never seen a triple voter but I've seen double voters and their vote simply counts as double, there's no activation, there's no waiting for final VC. That's how I assume the triple voter works. I could be wrong though, but I don't want clarification yet because the wolves are the ones who want that clarified, not villagers.

Thanks for joining the dodgy list dan. I look forward to slinging shit at you through d2.

[OngBonga]

In fact let's sling shit now. Why do you want it clarified dan?

[OngBonga]

Isn't monster referring to ong as momo because it's his name on another forum? He's not confusing him with anyone.

This is after baudib's VC too. Dan trying to link the dayvig and the triple voter as potential wolf buddies here.

I could get on board with dan if daven is awol.

[rong]

Well, for example, if I have someone I'm confident is a villager who has say 2 votes, I'm sitting on someone who also has 2 votes and someone I'm meh on is leading with 4, its feasible that the person I'm confident is a villager could get lynched when changing my vote could stop that.

I'm comfortable enough with that situation because at day end of my lynch choice isn't going to go I can switch to vote leader to help ensure the person I don't want to get lynched doesn't get lynched.

But if a tripple vote counts during the day in terms of reaching a majority and therefore day end then I need to reconsider my voting strategy.

[rong]

This is after baudib's VC too. Dan trying to link the dayvig and the triple voter as potential wolf buddies here.

I could get on board with dan if daven is awol.

I don't think I even understand what you're saying in this post.

[rong]

Wait, yes I do. But I thought that was your name on the other site and you and a bunch of others play there together. I don't see how that's linking you in terms of both being wolves.

[OngBonga]

I'm saying that you're suggesting that monstr is getting me confused with "momo" because he's been talking to me in the den where I'm domo. That's what it feels like you're getting at, and seeing as we're both looking like specials, that comes across as really fucking fishy.

And I'm not reconsidering my voting strategy. If the triple voter closes the deal on someone unexpectedly, that's a bummer. But, I'm going to reply on him being responsible... which in turn makes him obvious. Now, pop quiz... who is the only person that hasn't vote at all?

It became obvious to me after baudib's latest VC that monstr is the triple voter. That said, daven's vote, drew's derping, and your idea that monstr is confusing momo with domo, there's at least one wolf here imo.

[rong]

But the someone not voting implying they are the tropple vote only makes sense if 1. They auto triple vote and don't have to request its use and 2. It counts towards mid day majority for ending the day.

[rong]

None of which has been confirmed in the thread.

[rong]

And I'm not implying you would know this from asking in the wolf thread (before you go there as you similarly did with my name confusion post) because I imagine if the wolves had been told that then we would habe been as well.

[Luco]

But the someone not voting implying they are the tropple vote only makes sense if 1. They auto triple vote and don't have to request its use and 2. It counts towards mid day majority for ending the day.

yeah forcing triple voter to use their power d1 seems sucky and revealing the tp via vc also seems sucky

[OngBonga]

Well either way, I don't want monstr to clarify, and I don't want monstr lynched.

[monstrman]

Reading comprehension failure is never a wolf tell and it's laughable that people even bring it up.

Gonna remember that opportunism once I find who started that

[monstrman]

Daven good to know.

Gonna have a good time with you this game daven

[Luco]

I want wuf to be the triple voter, it's like the perfect role for dat ego of his

[monstrman]

Rong started it but he started it off a misconception

I don't know ong from any other forum I came from PoG and PoG only

Still noted.

[monstrman]

I think daven ' s vote on me is incredibly opportunistic and based off a misrep that doesn't actually prove anything

lynch daven

[monstrman]

Also bid is always a villager here

[rong]

Rong started it but he started it off a misconception

I don't know ong from any other forum I came from PoG and PoG only

Still noted.

What have you noted?

[rong]

Omg plays on mafia site, as does jkds and I thought some of monster, baidib and keyboard did as well, although I don't know where I've got that from.

[monstrman]

What have you noted?

Nothing I think it was probably nothing.

I was going to say that I think it could be wolfy of you to misrep me like that but honestly I think it was just a mistake and in a vaccuum way more likely to come from a villager.

[Keybored]

Omg plays on mafia site, as does jkds and I thought some of monster, baidib and keyboard did as well, although I don't know where I've got that from.

Fo da record, I am not nor have not registered to play WW on any other site. I'm a FTR purist, stuck in this universe with all y'all.

[MadMojoMonkey]

BID's post count alone screams villager. Anyone who thinks BID could maintain this post count without howling ITT should re-read BID's last few games.
There's a VV game, a village PR game and the infamous wolf shooter he played last game.

VV -> big posts, gives reads on all players, playful BID.
village PR -> low posts, no reads lists, playful BID
BIDwolf -> low posts, no reads, targets someone and camps.

I find it hard to believe that this has gone unnoticed by a group of poker players, since it's basically noting VPIP, but you guys surprise me all the time.

BIDwolf can't give us a reads list. BID would have to deeply internalize the many lies he put forward in the reads post. BID hates lies.
When BID lies, he has to think twice as hard. Once for realz and one extra time for the lie.
When BID is dropping lies, he keeps shit simple, as in 1 or 2 bits of info simple.

***
BID is village, and the only bare threat he offers the wolves is that that is no secret.

Wagers are absolutely against the rules, but there's no way you die tonight unless a wolf takes your bet and noms you for the $$.
(OOOhhhhhh that would be sexy, though.)

[OngBonga]

That's actually a very good assessment of drew. I feel like drew is readable because he's not very good of hiding his true motive. But you're right mojo, he is a bad liar, and he makes up for that when forced to lie by talking as little as possible.

It's certainly in drew's villager range for him to be genuinely dumb about the triple voter. But playing dumb is also in his wolf range. I'll consider that point alone null, and base my judgement on everything else he posts.

daven though is usually a lot more thoughtful, so him voting for monstr right after the VC, that looks very bad to me.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I kind of want to take my vote off of ong, but it feels like folding QQ pre.
That comes with all the motivations that I'm seeing a lot of V-cred in ong, but I also feel like lynching ong over the dayvig is lolobv +EV.

@BID: what are your D1 reads?

@key: JKDS is not getting my vote on D1, when I know he's going to make a big case on D2. Also, your vote is all alone right now. Is there anyone else you'd like to target / Can you convince me to vote with you?
'cause the whole JKDS/keybored thing seems


@monstr: I can get behind a daven vote for the absenteeism on policy. The only reason I could legit vote for him is that he claimed a soul read on me as W. I've never rolled W, so what could he possibly be soul reading?

***
I don't know what's up with wuf, but his post count is redic too low for his usual - and now he's out for the day with his vote sitting all alone on Hoopy.

Luco's vote on gabe is silly. If you can't shoot him in the face, we lynch gabe on D2, here, man.
This is a wasted vote.

***
It looks like the major wagons today are currently ong, daven, key.
I have to work in ~90 minutes. I'm convinced key is V-enough for no vote today.
I'm taking a few to clear my head and decide on the ong/daven thing.

[OngBonga]

I've never rolled W, so what could he possibly be soul reading?

Really? My gut reaction to this is to think you're lying, I thought you were wolf once, but you feel so fucking villagery that I'm doubting my memory, rather than your honesty.

[BooG690]

After some silence, rong comes out with this:

Isn't monster referring to ong as momo because it's his name on another forum? He's not confusing him with anyone.

My mistake, he is actually talking to mmm.

I'm sure song's name on quick topic was something like mono, but either way, as I stated above, it became clear that monster was indeed referring to mmm.

Sorry, I was confusing momo and ong. Ong is a fairly obvious villager on this page

momo I have a question for

Nope, wasn't clear. He was in fact confusing ong and MMM (nothing was clear. monstr admitted the confusion). Rong, why even bring up this confusion? I thought it was a bit wolfy to be using pet names, such as MoMo. I thought that might have been a thing the wolves were calling MMM in the den but then just assumed that was his nickname around these parts (I havent been on FTR in forever). So, again, Rong, why bring it up out of nowhere?

Ong tells me not to vote monstr. I don't like it when people tell me who not to lynch.

[BankItDrew]

Wow. How did I not get mod killed for that outburst... Thanks baudib for keeping me in the game.

[OngBonga]

Ong tells me not to vote monstr. I don't like it when people tell me who not to lynch.

boog, can you understand why I think he's the triple voter? Based on that alone, he's the most villagery person not called ong, from my pov. So he's an awful lynch. I'm not telling you who not to vote for, I'm telling you that voting for monstr is wolfy as fuck. You do what you like.

[Keybored]

Keith = V.
Keybored = V.V.
MoMo = V.
Ong = V.
BID = V. Cleared by MoMo above, IMO--great work dude. I agree both for its surface value and depth (I was there for those games).
*****
Gabe's doing the standard G-thang. I can't blame him after his d1 death record. Null on him.
Luco seems to be playing a diff game and I'm watching. His solo vote on Gabe is bad tho. Null for now.
Dhubs is full of himself. He's trying to portray a high-roller and I don't like it. He's def not his usual self. Neutral for now but he could easily be W. I'm gonna go research his W game. For now, he gets a d1 pass. Dude needs to step it up tho.
*****
My JKDS lynch vote was, as MoMo gif suggests, a repoke to get a dialog. That didn't work and nobody's gonna vote JK d1 with only 3 posts. I'm not declaring JKDS either way but a vote for him without more info is silly. FWIW, his early attempt to rally a wagon on me still sits weird. But...
RESCIND
*****
Wuf is def not his usual self. He's declared AFK, I'm giving him a pass rest of the day. BUT, his play has me worried. I also feel a W betw him and Monstr for reasons already posted.

BooG's tunneling of me is concerning, as I have been victim of this in the past by wolves. I've never said BooG is wolf but he's dead-set on me for some reason. If he doesn't pull up and look around, I'm gonna hafta put a W on him.

Daven is fence sitting, too neutral for his usual self. The Montst/Daven duel is not V-V sounding either. Wolf between them.

Hoopy is def NOT in his V zone this game. I'm leaning W on him for now.

Monstr & Rong have my nutz shriveling over name confusion. There's a wolf there I think.
*****

So...given how much MONSTR has painted my radar, he's my guy right now.

LYNCH MONSTR

[OngBonga]

The fuck are you doing keybored? Are you ignoring what I'm saying about monstr being the triple voter? At least wait for a VC so we can see if daven is on 2 votes or 4.

[BankItDrew]

Solid keybored villager post

[Keybored]

I want wuf to be the triple voter, it's like the perfect role for dat ego of his

That would be awesome!

[BankItDrew]

Ong, why is monstr the triple vote?

[OngBonga]

Solid keybored villager post

Is this sarcasm?

[OngBonga]

Ong, why is monstr the triple vote?

Read my posts on this page drew.

[BankItDrew]

Is this sarcasm?

Hahaha i thought it looked sarcastic after your response to him.

But no.

[Luco]

Key, I would argue that there's nothing wrong with my gabe vote if gabe is a wolf.

[BankItDrew]

Read my posts on this page drew.

Tl;dr

[MadMojoMonkey]

After some silence, rong comes out with this:
[...]
Nope, wasn't clear. He was in fact confusing ong and MMM (nothing was clear. monstr admitted the confusion). Rong, why even bring up this confusion? I thought it was a bit wolfy to be using pet names, such as MoMo. I thought that might have been a thing the wolves were calling MMM in the den but then just assumed that was his nickname around these parts (I havent been on FTR in forever). So, again, Rong, why bring it up out of nowhere?

Ong tells me not to vote monstr. I don't like it when people tell me who not to lynch.

The only one who calls me Momo is key. I think it is a pet name of sorts, because of the dynamic where he had me in his damn pocket for a whole game when he was a W.
Everyone else calls me MMM.

I like your point about rong. I've been trying to figure out why rong hasn't pinged in any direction with me, and you hit the nail on the head. It's cause rong is all over circumstantial crap.

I can vote for rong today.

***
Ong:
To vote:
Ong style: Ongwolf loves to do his dirty work overnight / early in the day and then weasel his way out of the noose.
General Policy: Shooting people with high V-equity is bad for the village. It seems entirely exploitable to NOT lynch ong for this.

Not to vote:
Mechanics speculation: I don't think a game with a wolf dayvig and no village dayvig makes too much sense.
Ong read this game: seems V.

***
I'm starting my shift, and will be working through EOD. As far as D1 votes go, I'm not unhappy with my vote on ong.
I will try to check back in and monitor how the wagons develop in the final hours of the day.

Specifically, I would move from ong to lynch daven or rong, as of my current information.

[OngBonga]

...

"Tonight, I drink with my sons in Valhalla."


Ong 4
Keybored 2
Hoopy 2
JKDS 1
BID 1
Wuf 1

Player - latest vote


Dhubermex -- BID
BID -- Ong
JKDS -- Keybored
Keybored -- JKDS
Rong -- Wuf
MMM - Ong
Boog -- Keybored
Luco -- rescind
Gabe -- Ong
Hoopy - Ong
Wuf -- Hoopy
Ong- Hoopy


No vote: Daven, Monstrman

[BooG690]

BooG's tunneling of me is concerning, as I have been victim of this in the past by wolves. I've never said BooG is wolf but he's dead-set on me for some reason. If he doesn't pull up and look around, I'm gonna hafta put a W on him.

Please. I haven't mentioned you in more than 12 hours. You're SO yesterday (though you're still suspect).

I think Ong is villager. I think Ong is, um, well, he's, good at this game (that really hurt to say). Ong says don't lynch monstr. I don't like people telling me what to do but, I don't know, maybe he's right. If he isn't, we gain a lot of knowledge IF monstr flips wolf. Still, fuck you Ong for telling me what to do.

Based on my impeccable logic in the above paragraph, I interesting that Keybored (there, I got that tunnel vision again) didn't even MENTION Ong's thoughts on Monstr when bolding him. Keybored tells me that he's holding onto his cards today (which makes me think he's got SOME kind of read on who's a wolf) and then nonchalantly bolds with some weak evidence.

Shit's weak. You're STILL suspect, Keybored.

[Keybored]

The fuck are you doing keybored? Are you ignoring what I'm saying about monstr being the triple voter? At least wait for a VC so we can see if daven is on 2 votes or 4.

Cut/pasta from Page 1:
Other powers
Certain characters will have the ability to perform the following tasks or may earn the ability to perform these tasks:
*Triple voter -- Player's vote will count triple for 1 game day.

Just cuz a player was last to vote today doesn't make him the 3xVoter. I don't think the 3xVoter even knows his power yet. It says this power may be earned. And even so, it's a one-shot deal. I think it'll come later in the game.

[OngBonga]

The vote count matches the numebr of votes. Luco should be in the "no vote" pile, so take that into account.

Both daven and luco have voted for me. monstr, until recently, had not made a single vote. That very much hints at triple voter. It's better if he isn't FORCED to confirm my suspicions.

[Keybored]

Key, I would argue that there's nothing wrong with my gabe vote if gabe is a wolf.

Course not...but ain't nobody hopping on that wagon today as long as G's silent. Your solo vote is not helping the V.

[OngBonga]

Cut/pasta from Page 1:
Other powers
Certain characters will have the ability to perform the following tasks or may earn the ability to perform these tasks:
*Triple voter -- Player's vote will count triple for 1 game day.

Just cuz a player was last to vote today doesn't make him the 3xVoter. I don't think the 3xVoter even knows his power yet. It says this power may be earned. And even so, it's a one-shot deal. I think it'll come later in the game.

You know what, I think I'm wrong, it looks like it needs to be activated.

Hmm... let me wind my neck in and mull this over for a bit.

[OngBonga]

rescind

My vote is entirely based on this triple voter thing, so I need to reassess.

[Keybored]

Please. I haven't mentioned you in more than 12 hours. You're SO yesterday (though you're still suspect).

I think Ong is villager. I think Ong is, um, well, he's, good at this game (that really hurt to say). Ong says don't lynch monstr. I don't like people telling me what to do but, I don't know, maybe he's right. If he isn't, we gain a lot of knowledge IF monstr flips wolf. Still, fuck you Ong for telling me what to do.

Based on my impeccable logic in the above paragraph, I interesting that Keybored (there, I got that tunnel vision again) didn't even MENTION Ong's thoughts on Monstr when bolding him. Keybored tells me that he's holding onto his cards today (which makes me think he's got SOME kind of read on who's a wolf) and then nonchalantly bolds with some weak evidence.

Shit's weak. You're STILL suspect, Keybored.

This is cool, keep the sights on a player...But keep your eyes open for suspicious behavior. No blinders...

[BooG690]

This is cool, keep the sights on a player...But keep your eyes open for suspicious behavior. No blinders...

Yup, still waiting for Rong to explain why he brought up the whole MoMo pet name confusion out of nowhere.

[OngBonga]

I'm sure momo isn't even fresh this game, idk why that's confusing dan either.

[rong]

I can't remember, I need to look back and find out. I'm afk for about 2 hrs though, well not that afk, I can prob get the odd minute here and there, but I don't have time to look back until about 7pm UK. But I will respond.

[OngBonga]

oop posted this in the wrong thread lol...

from last game...

Man, this game is cracking me up. Well done, MoMo! You picked the perfect scenario capable of spinning this particular group of megalomaniacal over-thinkers into a star imploding into a black hole. Hey you guys, ask yourself this:

If Keybored's a Villager, then who'd want to go balls out to A) Lynch him and/or B) Save him?

I think the ppl pushing uber hard to mislynch me are wolves.
The attack is way too emotional and feigns logic.
I think their plan is to get us to waste our last V-HS on another villager (me).
They don't care about the lunch, it's our last HS they're after.

I think the ppl arguing to save me are truly considering what's best for the village and their logic is sound.

Fellow Hot Shot...Save it for the high percentage shot or submit to a village consensus.

I'm pretty sure I've seen the name momo thrown around a fair bit over the last few games, and dan has been involved in these games.

[gabe]

I see no good option besides Ong. I know "Ong gonna ong" but hom shooting keith was particularly stupid. It just doesn't make sense for a thinking villager

I'm flying today so I won't be here around deadline. But I don't see why I would change my vote

[Hoopy]

Can we get a vote count please baudmod?

BID's post count alone screams villager. Anyone who thinks BID could maintain this post count without howling ITT should re-read BID's last few games.
There's a VV game, a village PR game and the infamous wolf shooter he played last game.

VV -> big posts, gives reads on all players, playful BID.
village PR -> low posts, no reads lists, playful BID
BIDwolf -> low posts, no reads, targets someone and camps.

I find it hard to believe that this has gone unnoticed by a group of poker players, since it's basically noting VPIP, but you guys surprise me all the time.

BIDwolf can't give us a reads list. BID would have to deeply internalize the many lies he put forward in the reads post. BID hates lies.
When BID lies, he has to think twice as hard. Once for realz and one extra time for the lie.
When BID is dropping lies, he keeps shit simple, as in 1 or 2 bits of info simple.

***
BID is village, and the only bare threat he offers the wolves is that that is no secret.

Wagers are absolutely against the rules, but there's no way you die tonight unless a wolf takes your bet and noms you for the $$.
(OOOhhhhhh that would be sexy, though.)

This is a great post that also made me laugh. Village points for MMM (not MoMo you crazy people) and for drew who I was already leaning village on.

[baudib]

"We fight....that is how we win, and that is how we die."

Votes
Ong 4
Keybored 2
Monstrman 2
Daven 1
Hoopy 1
Gabe 1
Wuf 1
BID 1


Voter -- latest vote
Dhubermex -- BID
BID -- Ong
JKDS -- Keybored
Keybored -- Monstrman
Rong -- Wuf
MMM - Ong
Boog -- Keybored
Luco -- Gabe
Gabe -- Ong
Hoopy - Ong
Wuf -- Hoopy
Ong- Rescind

Daven - Monstrman
Monstrman - Daven

Inform me of any corrections ASAP.

EOD in 2 hours 18 mins.

[BankItDrew]

Oh yeah. MMM is fucking hilarious...







NOT





The suit is black.

[BooG690]

Quick question for all you Ong lynchers: why would Ong bring SO much attention to himself on DAY ONE as a wolf, especially concerning a soon-to-be subbed Keith?

[OngBonga]

Well that VC confirms I was wrong in how I assumed the triple voter worked.

Fine, that's the only reason I thought monstr was a villager. Well he's a great lynch than, certainly better than me, and he's wolfier than keybored.

lynch monstr

[BankItDrew]

As someone else mentioned: It's a village leak to not kill people that kill villagers.

That and I have an epic read.

[Keybored]

I began making nicknames for MMM when I was a wolf trying to butter his ball. Since then, MoMo just stuck with me. But since there seems to be confusion, understandably, I'll resort to MMM from now on. And Dhubermex shall be Dhubs or Dhuber. I also think Dan & Drew should be stricken from the vernacular for same reason. Not fair to new guys...

So, the Ong wagon makes zero sense. Regardless, there's certain to be at least one wolf on it. I have my suspicion.

[rong]

I'm ok with ong because the shot was imo stupid. I'm also ok with daven as he's going to be afk a lot. I have little else to add ad it's day one. Well, one thing, it was odd that ong kept on defending monster when to me the argument of him being the probable triple vote had little substance. Maybe if monster goes down we can have a serious look at ong.

And I haven't forgotten about the response I promised, just too time consuming to find the posts that prompted my post whilst on my phone.

[Luco]

monstr is reading tone pure imo

rescind gabe lynch daven

[BooG690]

does vilkeith really self-lynch? wouldnt he just skip the offending posts? he doesn't self-lynch whenever he's playing and another player makes a lot of posts, so why would he do it after baud did it three times?

keith has gotten wolf twice recently and tends to play uniquely each time and also likes pulling moves. i think he's burnt out and is pulling a move

lynch keith

I think mojo is a villager too.

Anyway I'm solving this problem. I was gonna wait but what the hell is a dayvig for if not for removing problems like this.

dayvig keith

oh damn. i approve of this message

Why is Wuf's support of killing Keith going unmentioned? I mean, if everybody's logic is that a real villager never kills a villager, wouldn't Wuf also be a suspect? This is conveniently ignored while the focus is put on Ong who, again, seemed to do something reckless and illogical due to emotion. However, Ong's and Wuf's logic were pretty equivalent at the point: maybe Keith is a wolf. If he's not, he's definitely not a special. Let's kill him.

[BankItDrew]

Why is Wuf's support of killing Keith going unmentioned? I mean, if everybody's logic is that a real villager never kills a villager, wouldn't Wuf also be a suspect? This is conveniently ignored while the focus is put on Ong who, again, seemed to do something reckless and illogical due to emotion. However, Ong's and Wuf's logic were pretty equivalent at the point: maybe Keith is a wolf. If he's not, he's definitely not a special. Let's kill him.

This post smells of something stanky.

I can't help but think that boog is a wolf who knows that ong will flip villager.

[OngBonga]

Well, one thing, it was odd that ong kept on defending monster when to me the argument of him being the probable triple vote had little substance.

I just assumed it worked like a double voter, in that his vote would simply count triple. I was a poor assumption to make.

I also think Dan & Drew should be stricken from the vernacular for same reason. Not fair to new guys...

dan fair enough, it just feels weird calling him rong because for years he was danarong and I haven't got used to it out of sheer stubbornness... but drew... cmon... bank it DREW... it's hardly difficult to figure out!

[BooG690]

This post smells of something stanky.

I can't help but think that boog is a wolf who knows that ong will flip villager.

BID logic:
BooG must be a wolf who knows Ong is a villager. Therefore, my Ong bold remains.

I see you're still an all-star at this game, BID.

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Lol

[Keybored]

dan fair enough, but drew... cmon... bank it DREW... it's hardly difficult to figure out!

yeah...my bad.