Originally Posted by wufwugy
FWIW I think this is cart before the horse. Is it the cops in the community that makes things safe or is it a safe community that allows cops in it?
What does the police do that normal people don't or can't? Things like neighborhood watch are far more effective and cheaper and non-abusive. I suspect the culture of police security is one of the main reasons why we have really weird things like the bystander effect. I know a lot of people who would never be a bystander when something bad was going down. What they all have in common is they live in areas where most people don't like the state intervening in things, they're usually carrying, none of them are criminals. Contrast them to people in places where the state is thought to need to intervene in most areas, and that's where you get the bystander effect
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