*** Werewolves and Vampires II: Gameplay Thread ***

[JKDS]

rescind boog, lynch shotty

3 way tie lol!

[OngBonga]

stacks, tell us, who do you think the wolves are?

[Shotglass]

@ stacks
haven't been on
gator
tlr
jkds
bigred
vinland
kiwi
giz
enough?

[Shotglass]

rescind boog, lynch shotty

3 way tie lol!

awesome move, jkds.

no matter which of the three of us die tonight you should be looked at pretty hard. imo, there's only two reasons for creating a 3 way tie:

a villager who truly doesn't know, or
a wolf/vamp who doesn't care because the three names aren't on his team

[Shotglass]

if i thought that we had enough time to get support then i'd try to bandwagon you. 2 birds with one stone: an inactive and someone who just pulled that move.
but with only an hour left it'd my death sentence.

[Shotglass]

jkds>stacks>chelle>>>>>>boog

[OngBonga]

I'm down with a late jkds bandwagon. TLR? Anyone else?

[Shotglass]

i'm good for any lynch that isn't me

[Shotglass]

how's this for convictions, stacks
rescind stacks
lynch jkds

[TLR]

Late bandwagons are rarely a good idea

[OngBonga]

ok rescind stacks
lynch jkds

I'm refreshing every five minutes until the end.

[OngBonga]

@ TLR - I like this one because shotty and boog look like villagers to me.

[Shotglass]

here ya go stacks...perect chance to fulfill both of your stated requirements:
jkds- both an inactive and suspect

[OngBonga]

What we really need is gator to turn up and vote stacks...

[Shotglass]

he might yet.

[Shotglass]

i'm beginning to think that tlr was right about late bandwagons

[OngBonga]

This sucks. obv boog is gonna die here. This village sucks.

[Shotglass]

isn't it a flip right now?

[OngBonga]

Yeah between you and boog. If you're not gonna flip to boog, well we should get stacks back up to four so he's in on the flip too.

rescind jkds
lynch stacks

[wufwugy]

3 n a half minutes

[Shotglass]

well. got very little support for a late jkds lynch
thanks for trying Ong
might need the extra 17%
rescind jkds
lynch stacks

[OngBonga]

Do something shotty... either nail boog or get stacks in

[OngBonga]

lol nice... boog and shotty both villagers, let's hope we bink stacks

[Shotglass]

i'm not gonna kill off boog. i'd rather flip

[Stacks]

Rescind Boog, Lynch Shotglass

[wufwugy]

calling time

[wufwugy]

if somebody else wants to make count as well, just in case i get it wrong

[bigred]

30 votes for Wufwugy

[crazzvette]

Boog 3
Stacks 4
Shotty 5

?

[wufwugy]

Sorry that I can't give you a good death, Shotty

The Living

bigred
boog
chelle
crazzvette
gator
jkds
kiwimark
nightgizmo
ongbonga
stacks
tlr
vinland

The Dead

JustinSKS Werewolf lynched on Day 1
Rong Vampire nom'd by Werewolves on Night 1
Joker131 Sorcerer modkilled on Night 1
OngBonga Seer lynched on Day 2
Jackvance Werewolf killed by Vampires on Night 2
Jyms Vampire shot by Vigilante on Night 2
OngBonga Spawned Villager revived by Necromancer on Night 2
Bikes Villager lynched on Day 3
Pascal Villager nom'd by Werewolves on Night 3
Necromancer Shotglass lynched on Day 4

The Village

1 Werewolf
1 Turncoat Werewolf
1 Vampire
1 Turncoat Vampire
1 Vigilante
1 Spawned Villager
6 Villagers

It is now Night 4. Vampire and Vigilante please PM with your picks before this time tomorrow. Y'all may talk, but no hunting

[bigred]

You guys suck

[OngBonga]

Oh hi bigred, nice of you to show up.

[wufwugy]

I should make something clear

Spawned Villager OngBonga will die at the end of Day 5. So everybody knows I'm not changing rules around, I put this in the intro. The Necro's spawn gets a full day after the Necro's death, no more no less

[Stacks]

mah bad dawgs

.

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[BooG690]

Lynch JKDS

[BooG690]

Sorry Wuf! Forgot it was night!

[BooG690]

I was just excited I was alive, I guess.

[wufwugy]

Stacks gets shot in the face and Chelle's blood gets sucked out



Sorry I can't do no nifty story

The Living

bigred
boog
crazzvette
gator
jkds
kiwimark
nightgizmo
ongbonga
tlr
vinland

The Dead

JustinSKS Werewolf lynched on Day 1
Rong Vampire nom'd by Werewolves on Night 1
Joker131 Sorcerer modkilled on Night 1
OngBonga Seer lynched on Day 2
Jackvance Werewolf killed by Vampires on Night 2
Jyms Vampire shot by Vigilante on Night 2
OngBonga Spawned Villager revived by Necromancer on Night 2
Bikes Villager lynched on Day 3
Pascal Villager nom'd by Werewolves on Night 3
Necromancer Shotglass lynched on Day 4
Turncoat Werewolf Stacks shot by Vigilante on Night 4
Chelle Villager killed by Vampires on Night 4

The Village

1 Werewolf
1 Vampire
1 Turncoat Vampire
1 Vigilante
1 Spawned Villager
5 Villagers

It is now Day 5. OngBonga will die automatically at the end of this Day. 6 votes to lynch

[bigred]

Fucking yes, Vigilante! Well done!

lynch boog

[bigred]

Hmmmm, that vote may not make sense. What does Stax implicate here?

[bigred]

Rescind Boog, Lynch Shotglass

Turncoat knows who the other guy is but not vice versa, right? He tips the scales to save Boog while having plausible deniability? Is that a word?

What's the chances he expected to get shot in the face?

[GatorJH]

I know this may sound really crazy, but after reading the last few pages I think Boog may be the werewolf. I am going to look through some of the early posts but their interactions really look to me like they were trying to put up a ton of cover for each other (naturally this is dependent upon Boog picking up earlier in the game that he thought Stacks was the turncoat). If I look over the earlier posts and don't see the hints or can't make a connection he flips to firm villager in my book.

I also COMPLETELY agree with Shotty's post that JKDS' last minute flip to make a 3 way tie was very suspicious. Why would a villager do that?

Chelle needs to start at least making an effort to try and figure things out because the whole "this is my first game" crap does not help the village. Even if your logic is flawed you need to start putting some thoughts out there. Same thing with Kiwi.

I have thought for a long time that vinland is a baddie and still think that.

Based on the last few pages I am starting to think bigred could be a villager.

TLR and nightgizmo don't stand out in any way and that scares me.

[GatorJH]

Well I made it to page 9 when it became apparent that Stacks was not trying to throw Boog any hints so forget that theory. My top suspect right now is Vinland and if he turns out to be the other turncoat I think I may know who the other vampire is.

[TLR]

Well done Vig

Village - you suck; it was very obvious that Shotty was a villager and Stacks was a baddy

Chelle needs to start at least making an effort to try and figure things out because the whole "this is my first game" crap does not help the village. Even if your logic is flawed you need to start putting some thoughts out there. Same thing with Kiwi.

Good advice Gator, but a bit too late since she died last night

JKDS just pivoted to the top of the baddy list, as I said it was very clear that she is a villager and a very likely special, and JKDS probably picked on that, when it was clear that as a villager he would vote stacks

There is a chance that JKDS is the other turncoat protecting boog, and as I said I think that the baddy protected by Stax is a noob, Chelle was my top choice, but now it is probably Crazz or Vinland, I will have to go back thru Stacks posts to see if there are any hints

in the meanwhile lynch JKDS

[BooG690]

Lynch JKDS because that shit was fishy.

[OngBonga]

Vig is awesome.

Gonna have a good read today, but I'll say this now... boog is a villager, I'm as sure about him as I was chelle and shotty.

Those on the boog wagon who showed up after the lynch... bigred and crazv... very suspicious. Where were they when I was saying boog is a villager?

Chelle nom is just weird. No threat, picking up votes... vamp is vinland or crazv imo.

There's two other ldfo villagers imo also (besides me), so I see three wolves hiding in a pool of six.

boog wagon sucks today, I cannot emphasise that enough.

Right now I'd say jkds, bigred and crazv all make good choices for today. Will see what a reread of the thread does to change that view. Expect a tl;dr post from me at some stage during this ww day.

[OngBonga]

Also, try not to snap lynch JKDS before I get to read the thread please lol. I'm a dead man after this day ends.

[OngBonga]

@TLR -

Why is boog still suspicious to you? Does not not fake out always before going to sleep? Or is this read just too thin? Because seriously, it nails his role for me.

[GatorJH]

ll done Vig

Good advice Gator, but a bit too late since she died last night

That was supposed to be crazyv

[JKDS]

It is now Day 5.

BOOYAH MOTHER FUCKERS

Games in the bag now, wolves and vamps be screwed. Ive reached my time condition folks!!!



"JKDS: You are the secret role: The Wufinator. You are a villager, however, upon reaching Day 5 all attempts to kill you have a 50% chance of failing".
^^paraphrase, no rule violation imo

So suck it baddies! Shoulda killed the useless jkds while you had the chance!

[JKDS]

Also re tie post: Yall are dumb. I got unlucky and no one but stacks and shotty attempted to drive the lynch anywhere and both are dead now. Look

Did anyone think all 3 were town? (I didnt buy ong's town reads at all)

Suppose someone....lets say gator....came out of nowhere and broke the tie. Useful info huh? We dont get much when its only the lynchee's moving their votes, but id guess stack's switch to shotglass effected the vig's choice.

[JKDS]

Ill be around this afternoon to actually analyze the thread. Weekend = omg no lawschool, so expect a mountain of posts now that ive survived till today.

[kiwiMark]

Were you required to reveal this on day 5?

[TLR]

@TLR -

Why is boog still suspicious to you? Does not not fake out always before going to sleep? Or is this read just too thin? Because seriously, it nails his role for me.

Boog is always suspecious to me, but i am not sure he is a villager mainly because JKDS seems to be protecting him (relative to their history)

I will resync JKDS until you will make your mega post

[TLR]

BOOYAH MOTHER FUCKERS

Games in the bag now, wolves and vamps be screwed. Ive reached my time condition folks!!!



"JKDS: You are the secret role: The Wufinator. You are a villager, however, upon reaching Day 5 all attempts to kill you have a 50% chance of failing".
^^paraphrase, no rule violation imo

So suck it baddies! Shoulda killed the useless jkds while you had the chance!

Why should we believe such a role exists?

[TLR]

Right now I'd say jkds, bigred and crazv all make good choices for today. Will see what a reread of the thread does to change that view. Expect a tl;dr post from me at some stage during this ww day.

Agree with JKDS and crazz, dont think BR is a baddy, Vinland is a much better choice

[OngBonga]

This game is already f'ed up and is definitely going to get worse.

What a mess is this..

So many new faces, confusing times.

"confused" seems to be a common theme here.

As I said, I don't plan on lynching any new players on Day 1 without a good reason.

6.12pm that post was, then at 6.36pm...

I like lynching someone quiet on day 1. joker and justinsks haven't even bothered to show up yet

A quick change of heart from gizmo there.

This could definitely be a turncoat throwing a hint.

This too could be a turncoat throwing a hint.

End of day one. Just getting started lol. Based on the info I picked up from there, I'd say gator, gizmo and crazv all look most suspect, but jkds is not off the hook yet, I mean this guy is usually top of the post count with me, I can't figure out what's with jkds this game.

More later.

[OngBonga]

Just as a note to self... I got to post #161

[GatorJH]

I just took a good read through the thread and think there is a greater than 70% chance that crazyv is the last vampire, but need to take another look through to see if I can spot the turncoat (assuming I am right here of course).

@ong, you have played with me enough to know that I am too smart as a baddie to be on the same page as my fellow baddies. I tried the "in your face" attempt once and it failed miserably.

[OngBonga]

k since so many people think they can soul read day 1-3. which is abso preposterous i'm shattering your bubble right now.

Can't leave this alone.

vig... you wanna be a hero? Shoot stacks or jyms in the face.

FU BIKKLES I SOULREAD WOLVES ON DAY TWO. BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.

I don't like the idea of lynching Crazzette.

I wonder why?

Got to end of day two, start of page 8. Day two is mostly jv and stacks looking wolfy as fuck. Not much use to us right now.

This is the picutre I'm getting...

gator = vamp turncoat
crazv = wolf

last vamp could be one of jkds, vinland or gizmo.

@ong, you have played with me enough to know that I am too smart as a baddie to be on the same page as my fellow baddies. I tried the "in your face" attempt once and it failed miserably.

Well I have you pegged as the last turncoat, so you don't know that jv is a wolf, and you're unable to discuss tactics, so you're playing your own game. Lots more to read yet so I won't be pushing for your lynch just yet.

[crazzvette]

This may be a silly question but i was just wandering something ? Say the villagers win this game , do we get some kind of prize or special freeroll or something ? Not to make this sound like i'm just playing this for it thou . It's been fun and a blast reading and watching how this is unfolding and playing out . This is like one of my favorite shows as survivor and big brother .

[BooG690]

Why do people hate crazz again?

[kiwiMark]

I love boog.

[kiwiMark]

lynch TLR

[GatorJH]

I'm not the turncoat nor a baddie Ong, but feel free to run a lynch on me today. Without a seer in the game I will always be on several wolfish short lists so maybe the best bet is to lynch me now to avoid the distraction later.

I do have to say though that you are wrong about one point. The turncoat DOES know who the wolf is, but the wolf doesn't know who the turncoat is.

[GatorJH]

I am suspicious of her because I think her "I don't know what is going on" style is a planned tactic to keep her out of trouble. I also think Jyms tried to gain some separation from her in the very beginning of the game just in case she got caught.

[GatorJH]

Another flaw in your thinking Ong is that I would point a finger at a wolf/vamp as a hint that I am the turncoat.

[OngBonga]

The remaining turncoat would not know jv was a wolf. Gator you're smart enough to figure out why that is, stop pretending you're missing my point.

Your post "This could definitely be a turncoat throwing a hint." is absolutely the kind of post I would expect a turncoat gator to make.

[OngBonga]

Our biggest lead right now is... who the fuck noms chelle?

[bigred]

rescind boog, lynch crazzvette

She's not helping, is linked to other players, etc, etc

Plus, we must rid this town of all the wimenz.

[GatorJH]

The remaining turncoat would not know jv was a wolf. Gator you're smart enough to figure out why that is, stop pretending you're missing my point.

Ahhh, I gotcha now. I didn't look close enough to notice that you were trying to tie me, Rong (a vampire) and JV (a wolf) together because we all made that kind of comment.

[wufwugy]

Forgot to mention that Day 5 ends at 3PM Monday

[GatorJH]

Our biggest lead right now is... who the fuck noms chelle?

Agree with this

rescind boog, lynch crazzvette

She's not helping, is linked to other players, etc, etc

Plus, we must rid this town of all the wimenz.

Although I don't disagree that she was not helping I do disagree that she was linked to other players, etc. etc.

Chelle took some pretty big heat early in the day yesterday and her lack of input would have been enough for me (as a vampire) to keep her around. I would have probably targeted either TLR or Bigred. Personally I think the vamp was werewolf hunting.

[GatorJH]

Here's a question. Do we try to find and lynch the last vampire right now or focus on the wolves? If we lynch the last vampire the village only loses a person every other night (Wuf doesn't say anything about one group getting nightly kills if the other group dies out), but on the other hand if we focus on finding either the wolf or turncoat there is a probability that one team hits the other team.

Since we have all weekend I thought it would be best to discuss the options because I really think Crazyv is the last vampire but am not sure if it makes sense to lynch her today.

Thoughts?

[OngBonga]

Personally I think the vamp was werewolf hunting.

Or vig hunting. Chelle was on my shortlist of potential vig's after she tried to lynch a dead jyms. Figured it might be an attempt to distance herself from the shot.

Thinking more about stacks' late flip last night... he knows doing that is going to get himself shot, so why did he do it? Either...
1. he knew shotty was special,
or 2. boog is the wolf and he was protecting both himself and boog from the flip.

As much as I think boog's lack of outing last night suggests strongly he's a villager, boog will also know that a fake outing is not going to keep him alive for long, so maybe better to sit back and wait, especially if he thinks stacks is his turncoat and will throw a late flip in to kill of shotty.

I really don't know about boog. There's evidence for him being wolf and villager. Tough spot.

The chelle nom points strongly at crazvette for me. Maybe someone like gator is smart enough to know this is what some people will think. Either noob wolf, or smart wolf trying to look like a noob.

Gonna have a read through day three once I've eaten.