*** Werewolves and Vampires II: Gameplay Thread ***

[GatorJH]

Gator is trying too hard. You are all fools for not lynching him.

you sticking with a Gator lynch is indicative of how you act when you are wolf. As a villager you may start with a lynch Gator but give it up and try to add value when it isn't working.

[Vinland]

Recind Jyms

and
Lynch Justin

[bigred]

you sticking with a Gator lynch is indicative of how you act when you are wolf. As a villager you may start with a lynch Gator but give it up and try to add value when it isn't working.

Nope.

[bigred]

Jymz certainly did sweat on day 1. Be interesting to see what happens with him in the future.

[bikes]

going to literally vote shotglass everytime until she's lynched

[Shotglass]

going to literally vote shotglass everytime until she's lynched

some people just gotta be haters

[jyms]

I didn't sweat, I just had to work most of the day, I'm gonna be here posting as often as possible. I can't get told I'm spamming here and I have like 5K post to catch up now that the commune and WW forums count, it's why I am here. I'm gonna be a giant pain in the ass in the dead thread too when I'm lynched.

[JKDS]

Lynch Justin

BOOM

[wufwugy]

Looks like 11

[JKDS]

BOOM I SAY

[wufwugy]

There are three things JustinSKS loved: his mother, a breeze on a nice sunny day, and signing up for Werewolf games. He never quite reached boss status of actually playing in those Werewolf games, but dammit, Jim, he tried!

JustinSKS is a dead werewolf

The Living

bigred
bikes
boog
chelle
crazzvette
gator
jackvance
jkds
joker131
jyms
kiwimark
nightgizmo
ongbonga
pascal
rong
shotglass
stacks
tlr
vinland

The Dead

JustinSKS - Werewolf lynched on Day 1

Werewolves, Sorcerer, and Seer; you have 18 hours to PM me. If you want 24 hours, that's fine, but it's 10:30PM my time, and if we can do the night phase before this time tomorrow, the game will not be delayed well beyond the 24 hour point (because I'll be sleeping and stuff).

It is Night 1. You can post if you would like, but post nothing related to wolf hunting and all that jazz

[wufwugy]

Did nobody know Justin was a troll? His avatar is Scumbag Steve's brother, he's only got 200 or whatever posts yet is in the red on rep, his profile says "I fold AA preflop" like Steve's brother would think is funny, and I just checked his latest strategy post, which is the most obvious troll there ever was. Even my toothbrush knows better than to fold AK pf at nanos on 888

[kiwiMark]

But he can drop lyrical fire like a kind of disappointing fire-breather who specialises in breathing lyrics instead of actual fire.

[JKDS]

[BooG690]

I had a picture of a dragon I took here in Seoul as a cover photo on Facebook not too long back. Those of you who are friends with me on Facebook may remember this.

Anyway, Justin IMed me back in June just saying hi. We used to frequent IRC but I always kind of rolled my eyes at the thought of him. Here's a transcript of the full conversation. Quite luhls.



He was dead serious. He bitched to another FTRer (who shall remain nameless until he/she steps up) about my cover photo.

[jackvance]

Perm ban from all future WW if I ever saw one.

[kiwiMark]

I AM SHE. And I am not ashamed.

[Stacks]

Bink!

Perm ban from all future WW if I ever saw one.

Yep. There should be some sort of wall of shame type list pretty much permabanning individuals who get modkilled, unless they have a legitimate reason and show that they will participate in future games (but pretty much only likely if it's a reg).

[bigred]

I'm on the wall of fame. In that I'm a wall and famous.

[bikes]

Bink!



Yep. There should be some sort of wall of shame type list pretty much permabanning individuals who get modkilled, unless they have a legitimate reason and show that they will participate in future games (but pretty much only likely if it's a reg).

PERMABANNING PEOPLE WHO GET MODKILLED?

YOU DON'T SAY

[Pascal]

Night timeeeeeeeeee

[wufwugy]

"Fucking gross!" thought Ms. Dana Rong as his eyes scoured the women at the Would Hit Lounge of The Village. "That split end is a nightmare. I can't believe she's out in public. 2/10 would not bang. And look at the behemoth sitting next to her. What is she, like 40 kilos? Fucking enormous whore! Why does Wuf keep bringing all these Jabbas to the bar?”

The sight of the disgusting fatties made his stomach churn and he proceeded in the direction of the restroom. Unfortunately it was on the other side of the bar, so he put his hand on his forehead as he walked past to hide his unbearably gorgeous face from the neanderthals in skirts drinking Villamopolitans. After walking into the restroom he habitually smiled at the mirror to check for anything in his teeth, but then chuckled when he realized that doesn't work. Stomach grumbling, he quickly chose the stall at the end (because that's what bosses do), then dropped trou and let loose. The great release of bowels was indeed a satisfying feeling, but it didn't compare to the wonderful calm he experienced as he deeply inhaled the air. “Oh what amazing things the Dana Rong body can produce,” he thought.

Just then he heard a shout from outside the stall door. “Your favorite color must be blue!” it was as a hairy clawed foot smashed through the door to reveal a dumbfounded look from the man on the john. “Or perhaps it's yelloooooooooooooow!” exclaimed the beast, diving upon his indisposed prey. Rong had no time to react for he was still traumatized by his sighting of the gargantuan Sally Struthers lookalikes at the bar. The werewolf crushed his windpipe immediately then slammed his dying body against the wall.

As the wolf began morphing back into a human, the restroom door burst open and Joker131 shouted, "I know it's you, you slimy dirty slimy thing!" Facing the puzzled wolf, Joker began vigorously rubbing his hands together. "Abracadabra huzzah ping pong m. night shamamalan!" he exclaimed as he quickly threw his hands in the wolf's direction. But nothing happened. He looked down and saw only a wisp of smoke coming from his fingertips. His lips quivering, he watched as the wolf's puzzled look turned to a wide, toothy grin. But that smile quickly reverted back to puzzlement as Joker abruptly ran out of the bathroom screaming stuff about his mommy.


Rong is a dead Vampire
Joker131 is a modkilled Sorcerer


I know I said I wasn't going to modkill anybody, but that was because the two inactives were a wolf and a special, and I developed a way to handle the problem of their inactivity just through letting you guys figure it out. I could have chosen to modkill them both, but I felt I would have had to make some changes to both the village and wolf teams because it would simply have been unfair for them to have been stuck with dead weight from the very beginning.

Joker PM'd me today saying he's out of the game, so he has to be modkilled. And since the wolves hit a target that evens out the role distribution created by the inactives, there is no need for me to change anything. Every team is pretty much on the same footing now as they would have been if the inactives were not included in the game in the first place

I should have been able to predict those two wouldn't play even though they signed up and solved the problem before it started. But alas, I did not.

The Living

bigred
bikes
boog
chelle
crazzvette
gator
jackvance
jkds
jyms
kiwimark
nightgizmo
ongbonga
pascal
shotglass
stacks
tlr
vinland

The Dead

JustinSKS Werewolf lynched on Day 1
Rong Vampire nom'd by Werewolves on Night 1
Joker131 Sorcerer modkilled on Night 1

The Village

2 Werewolves
1 Turncoat Werewolf
2 Vampires
1 Turncoat Vampire
1 Seer
1 Vigilante
1 Necromancer
8 Villagers

It is now Day 2, which will end in approximately 48 hours. You may post; 9 votes to lynch

[Pascal]

Great story wuf hahaha

Anyone else very inactive?

[bikes]

lynch shotglass

obvious wolf.

[jyms]

I'm confused... Did joker get away from the wolf? Sound to me like a set up for a late surprise return like they do on some reality TV show where everyone forgets about some asshole and they throw him back into the mix to have some drama when the show is getting boring for viewers.

[Vinland]

tlr and Chelle have been quiet....
Lets see if they chime in soon.

[JKDS]

bigred --- gator -
bikes --- shotty -
chelle --- jyms
jackvance
stacks --- joker
tlr --- pascal

If ong was correct, and the last 3 votes mattered, then these are the pepole who didnt vote Justin.

Jackvance didnt vote at all. I like him.

Lynch JV

[Stacks]

If ong was correct, and the last 3 votes mattered, then these are the pepole who didnt vote Justin.

I don't really see why you are looking at people who didn't vote for Justin, as I tend to think it would be more beneficial to look at those who did.

Other wolves would have known he wasn't going to participate before anyone else. So knowing inactives are going to be prime targets, and typically modkilled, it seems like a decent time to toss him under the bus for distancing purposes in the future.

I'm more inclined to look at the people throwing Justin's name around rather early as a lynch candidate, as they could have known he wasn't going to play and wanted the ability to point back later and say "I tossed his name out early when we could have easily lynched another noob/joker, why would I do that as a wolf?".

Looking back at that I see this:

Well I'm torn between justin, crazvette and joker... first one to annoy me gets my vote.

Ong's first post in the game. Mentioning Justin.

Sticking with justin, will wagon joker or crazyvette happily, esp if they remain inactive.

This is like 12 hours after the game started. I didn't even know the game had started, yet he is already pointing out inactives. Could have been 12 hours of trying to get a hold of Justin with no luck, or being told he wasn't going to play.

We're close to a coin flip that there's a wolf/vamp between joker and justin.

A few hours later.

So... er... inactive? No modkill mean justin and joker really need to show up. Can't see stacks and TLR staying quiet for too long.

rescind justin
lynch joker

First post after finding out there were no modkills.

Oh yeah I missed that post somehow. Well he's in and justin isn't, so I reckon a switcharoo, esp since we might get some comical one liners of gibberish from joker.

Let's lynch Justin instead! Anyone?

After the Joker wagon had already picked up a fair bit of steam (6 votes). Looked like he was pretty likely getting lynched.

Wow, did I do that? Since when did people listen to me?

After the train switched to Justin.


So yeah, at this time, with the information we have so far, I'm thinking Ong is my prime suspect. Obviously a good chance I'm already leveling myself, but it seems logical (to me at least).

Also, lol @ Stacks doing work up in dis bitch already.

[JKDS]

Ok, sold

lynch ong

[wufwugy]

learn to rescind ur shit jaykids

else wufwugy will become madwugy, and nobody wants to see that wugy

[JKDS]

[wufwugy]

okay you win

[NightGizmo]

The entire wagon happened in a few short hours, so I don't think it's too suspicious for those that didn't vote for justin. It's definitely worth noting, but it's not a smoking gun. I want a better reason for a Day 2 lynch then "you didn't vote for the wolf on the day 1 lynch."

I was originally thinking that the later votes for justin could hold a wolf or two, piling onto the wagon when it became obvious that he was going to get lynched. But Stacks has an interesting theory, too. Curious to see Ong's reaction

[Shotglass]

Stacks post # 178: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2105886 (I hope I did that link correctly) plus this post from Ong:

Well I have to say this made me howl..

an this:

Haha owned by crazvette, maybe you might be of use, you're observant...

What little ego I have would not like to be busted by a noob making a dumb hint like that. But yeah if I got away with something like that I'd fistpump at you all for giggles, you got me there.

has me sold...
lynch Ong

[Shotglass]

It would be just like Ong to make that type of comment to see if anyone caught it and then throw another wolf under the bus in attempt to give himself some distance.

[Shotglass]

going to literally vote shotglass everytime until she's lynched

This is going to be of absolutely no help to us in trying to figure out who are the baddies....but I like it....how's it feel to know that I got under your skin that badly

[bikes]

This is going to be of absolutely no help to us in trying to figure out who are the baddies....but I like it....how's it feel to know that I got under your skin that badly

you haven't but actually divulging strat before day 4 is stupid

[jyms]

For what its worth, I wanted joker and piled on justin too, so I suck.

The coke and crazzvette's pie was good though, that I know.

[TLR]

Stax is much more active then usual

[kiwiMark]

As most handsome in this village, I propose that all werewolves and vampires come forward and accept their fate.

[jackvance]

Wuf competing hard with bigred as best WW story teller . Anyway, personally I still feel like lynching someone who is rather quiet and who I don't know how they play. I don't see too much to go on yet, but it's ok we've had a good start (sorcerer is easily the weakest special we could lose), and hunting two teams of wolves is always more difficult than one. I agree with what is said about some werewolves on the Justin train, but I'd keep that in mind for later - I don't like the ong lynch at this point because he is quite readable anyway and I generally like his input on the game.

[TLR]

Wuf competing hard with bigred as best WW story teller . Anyway, personally I still feel like lynching someone who is rather quiet and who I don't know how they play. I don't see too much to go on yet, but it's ok we've had a good start (sorcerer is easily the weakest special we could lose), and hunting two teams of wolves is always more difficult than one. I agree with what is said about some werewolves on the Justin train, but I'd keep that in mind for later - I don't like the ong lynch at this point because he is quite readable anyway and I generally like his input on the game.

Losing the sorcerer was pretty bad since it was a risk free way for getting a wolf/vampire, but it is what it is

With 11 people voting for Justin even if there is 1-2 wolves on it we dont have too much info, as there are probably 1-2 wolves not voting for him.

I agree with you that two team format makes it relatively easier for the wolves/vampires to hide since they can act as villagers and hunt the other team, finding the turncoat can be even more complex as is always the case with one person team.

Currently Stax is at the top of my suspect list, I have not played with Jyms enough to get a good read on his play

I dont like an Ong lynch at this point

What is your view on JKDS and Boog being in the same team?

[Chelle]

Hello, lovelies.

Hhmmmn, who shall I vote to lynch?

Sticking wiiiithhhh

jyms

[jackvance]

Losing the sorcerer was pretty bad since it was a risk free way for getting a wolf/vampire, but it is what it is

With 11 people voting for Justin even if there is 1-2 wolves on it we dont have too much info, as there are probably 1-2 wolves not voting for him.

I agree with you that two team format makes it relatively easier for the wolves/vampires to hide since they can act as villagers and hunt the other team, finding the turncoat can be even more complex as is always the case with one person team.

The turncoat is indeed something interesting, there might be ways to sniff them out when the game progresses, but I probably shouldn't talk about that just yet.

Currently Stax is at the top of my suspect list, I have not played with Jyms enough to get a good read on his play

I favor Jyms more, but he is posting a lot, there are some more silent unknowns that should take priority.

I dont like an Ong lynch at this point

What is your view on JKDS and Boog being in the same team?

Pretty early to try and sniff out team-mates together (this also rarely works when they are both still alive unless they mess up), what makes you link them?

[TLR]

Pretty early to try and sniff out team-mates together (this also rarely works when they are both still alive unless they mess up), what makes you link them?

They are not going after each other for some reason

[OngBonga]

God you lot are stupid. Yeah If I'm a wolf on Justin's team, I'm gonna try so hard to get him lynched so I look like a villager. Not gonna try and get joker lynched instead since that would be better for my team.

Here's how it should appear to you lot... I'm obv not a wolf. Could be vamp, but I'm a wolf somewhere in the region of never.

Nor am I ever the wolf turncoat, because I'd have known Justin was wolf.

Not that I think stacks is barking up the wrong tree. There's info in the justin wagon last night for sure. But I'm no wolf.

How the fuck is it not obvious?

lynch jyms

Also, if bikes is seriously just gonna vote shotty forever, well he's dead weight and of no use to the village. I can switch to him. Shotty looks like villager to me, no need for this crap.

[jackvance]

They are not going after each other for some reason

I think they would make a point of going for each-other if they were on the same team. However, JKDS can be a wolf (=werewolf or vampire) but it's just a small hunch on my part.

[OngBonga]

After the Joker wagon had already picked up a fair bit of steam (6 votes). Looked like he was pretty likely getting lynched.

Just a quick point on stacks' post... this comment above was a response to this quote of mine...

Oh yeah I missed that post somehow. Well he's in and justin isn't, so I reckon a switcharoo, esp since we might get some comical one liners of gibberish from joker.

Let's lynch Justin instead! Anyone?

This started the justin wagon, there wasn't 6 votes for him when I made this post. Boog chimed in almost immediately, and then I switched to get it rolling, and then BAM the wagon goes viral.

So stacks is posting misleading information. Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but worth noting.

[OngBonga]

I think we'd do well to look at those who reluctantly voted justin after trying to get crazvette or joker lynched.

jyms anybody?

[jackvance]

I think jyms is a decent candidate but we have to be careful to go for vocal people early, it creates a bad meta-game for the village.

[kiwiMark]

says the guy talking a lot!

[OngBonga]

Fair enough JV, but out of everyone who's left, I feel we're gonna get participation. There's no obvious quiet targets. The remaining noobs are involved.

Like I say, happy to go for bikes unless he's pulls his head out of his arse. I'd be happier to see him vote for me so we can see he's interested in playing ww rather than just using the game to bitch at shotty.

[NightGizmo]

I think they would make a point of going for each-other if they were on the same team.

They tried going after each other when we were all wolves together a few games back, it backfired and boog only avoided a lynch on day 1 by fake outing as the seer. If they were on the same team, I doubt they would try that tactic again.

[NightGizmo]

Fair enough JV, but out of everyone who's left, I feel we're gonna get participation. There's no obvious quiet targets. The remaining noobs are involved.

Like I say, happy to go for bikes unless he's pulls his head out of his arse. I'd be happier to see him vote for me so we can see he's interested in playing ww rather than just using the game to bitch at shotty.

I agree. Posting with no value is the same as not posting at all.

lynch bikes

[OngBonga]

Problem of course it allows a wolf bikes to just float by giving us zero info.

So yeah I'll rescind jyms
lynch bikes

If he rescinds his shotty vote and plays the game I'll rescind my bikes vote.

[jyms]

I guess I am supposed to stay quiet until my name is forgotten but you guys are missing some things and getting some things wrong.

I made a big mistake and was thinking I was gonna sniff out all the baddies day one, but here are some obvious people not posting on purpose that have posted elsewhere on FTR. Villagers don't typically stay quiet, certainly not when they are new to WW. I was overly enthusiastic since I haven't played since WW2 or 3 back before we had a WW forum. If that gets me lynched so be it, but I think that there are some better targets. Bikes is obvious, All 3 women have been suspicious. I think shotglass is something, just not sure if good or bad. Chevette may just think villager is a special role but she's always posting enthusiasticly so maybe I am wrong. And Chelle is definitely bad. I don't say that just because she's voting for me, because I am sure if I stay quiet you guys will move on, but she's posted 1132 times in a week and 3 times here in 2 days?

[Pascal]

It's hard to post a lot when other people don't post much - I read the thread every time someone posts but I don't reply every time.

[Pascal]

So I don't think that necessarily makes people bad. That said, I am suspicious about a couple of people.

[OngBonga]

I was overly enthusiastic since I haven't played since WW2

Chevette may just think villager is a special role but she's always posting enthusiasticly so maybe I am wrong.

Yeah jyms is enthusiastic because he hasn't played in a while, not because he's a baddie. But crazvette is enthusiastic not because she's new but because she thinks she's special.

Hmmmm.

[jyms]

Soul read ITT

[crazzvette]

As i open up my eyes and see the morning sun come slightly thru my windows , i knew it was morning . So gently i start to get out of bed by sliding my long legs out from under the covers as they reach for my slippers . The bed covers are moved a bit while i start to rise from the bed naked from the nights before occurrences . A slight cool breeze was in the air as my nipples started to get hard when reaching for my robe . Slightly tightening my robe around me as i walk out of the bedroom from the sounds of people making noises outside .

When i get to the door i can hear people talking as they run past my house , slowly i start to open the door to see what was all the fuss about . At my door step was todays village newspaper so i preceeded to bend down to retrieve it as my robe slightly opened up to show my long legs . When i stand back up i opened up the paper to be amazed to what i was reading , ANOTHER KILLING IN OUR VILLAGE . I started to read the article and at the same time i was watching the villagers running around for what had happened from the previous occurrences .

Just at that moment there was a hand placed on my shoulder from behind as another hand came around slowly and so slightly to caress my breast as he gently gave me a hug . He moves his hand from my shoulders and starts to move my long silky hair from my neck as he preceeds to kiss it and whispers in my ear . " Your the best , crazzvette " . He then slowly lifts up his hoody to shade his face from being seen and proceeds to run out the door to blend in with the other villagers .

Intregued in what i was reading , i lost my footing and got caught up by a strong breeze from the wind . Being unaware of what had happened , my robe opened up to much showing people around what naturally people would pay to see . Embaressed of what had occured untill i heard the howling of someone watching me . I quickly looked up and saw Ongbonga staring at me , druilling in fact . Did i see fangs from his mouth in that breif second that i saw him or was it my imagination playing tricks on me . Scared and uncertain , i quickly closed the door and started to hold my paper and myself tightly . What or Who is Ongbonga and what was his intentions for me ?

[OngBonga]

lies

She's 4' 11'', she hasn't got long legs.

That post made me both laugh and puke. That's a first.

[Pascal]

ahahahahaha

[jyms]

[jackvance]

Roleplaying in a WW game lmao that's a first.

[NightGizmo]

He then slowly lifts up his hoody to shade his face from being seen and proceeds to run out the door to blend in with the other villagers .

...my robe opened up to much showing people around what naturally people would pay to see .

Crazzvette is the village prostitute? I didn't know that was a role.

[Shotglass]

wow...just, wow

[wufwugy]

i thought all we did on this forum was cyber

[bikes]

recind shotglass
lynch craz

never wanna read anything like that again. this is ww not 50 shades of garbage.

[OngBonga]

k well that's good enough for me to get off bikes' back.

rescind bikes

[crazzvette]

I'm EASY to get along with if you understand my sense of humour , if you don't get what i'm implying and have to be rude in any way , sorry if your imaturity gets the best of you .

lynch bikes

[NightGizmo]

rescind bikes

My top choices at this moment:

bikes: hasn't posted real content, but I can't argue with his crazzvette lynch.
crazzvette: somehow has a lot of posts but has only been talking about pies and writing romance posts, nothing constructive towards finding the baddies. THE GOAL IS TO FIND THE WOLVES/VAMPIRES AND LYNCH THEM.
chelle: very low post count, no content that provides value to the village. Jyms has a great point -- she's active in the forum but not in this thread. Wolves are often quiet, because it's hard to keep up a web of lies.

I'm torn between crazzvette and chelle -- I want to lynch crazzvette more, but I think chelle is the better lynch.

lynch chelle

[bikes]

WOOOOOOOOOOOSH

[bikes]

k since so many people think they can soul read day 1-3. which is abso preposterous i'm shattering your bubble right now. you're like the guy who moves up in stakes, wins 10 bi first session and think's he's god's gift.

you can't unless someone makes a tremendous day 1-2 blunder.

that all being said, days 1-3 you lynch people who are inactive or are just levels ahead of everyone in ww. which is why back before we lynched pelion every day 1. without fail and probably gabe day 3. not because we thought they were wolves, but it's because you can't pick up anything read worthy for a few days. this 'soul reading' crap is garbage.

lemme put it this way incase that wasn't clear. someone 3bs you twice in an orbit. you don't snap say OMG LAGTARD ON THE LOOSE. you'll have a bad time.

so for now lynch inactives and people who are just too good. makes for a more enjoyable mid and late game.

[bikes]

also if you lynch me day 2-3 ill be flattered but atm just picking up reads and everyone does it differently