How to play JJ

[BorisTheSpider]

Do you call a 3 bet IP/OOP?

Although I occasionally lapse, in general I don't call 3bets OOP with anything. If you can't 4bet for value and get it in or 4bet-fold as a bluff, fold.

[Cobra_1878]

Depends on table dynamics

It's your first hand at a brand new table

Although I occasionally lapse, in general I don't call 3bets OOP with anything. If you can't 4bet for value and get it in or 4bet-fold as a bluff, fold.

OK, that's fair enough I guess. Would you 4 bet the JJ OOP then or fold it?

[BorisTheSpider]

OK, that's fair enough I guess. Would you 4 bet the JJ OOP then or fold it?

That's where it comes down to reads. Readless, I'd fold 80+% of the time probably and 4bet occasionally, leaning more towards 4betting if there's a positional dynamic like I've opened the CO and been 3bet by the button.

With reads, the proportions would change. So if someone is 3betting 20% and not really folding to 4bets then I'll be more likely to 4bet for value. If someone is 3betting 3% and running 12/10 overall I'll be folding.

The problem with 4bet bluffing with a hand like JJ is that most of what might fold is not beating you anyway, but flipping, so JJ is not a good hand to do that with - I was more talking about a general approach to handling being 3bet OOP when I referred to 4bet bluffing as an option.