Changing tactics : My Live Poker Blog

[TheLongGrind]

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one. Though this was kind of a funny story it's also very troublesome knowing some guy is out there waisting his life through irresponsible gambool behaviour. Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

[supa]

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one. Though this was kind of a funny story it's also very troublesome knowing some guy is out there waisting his life through irresponsible gambool behaviour. Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

Just an FYI. The site that this deal came thru is fairly small and the people involved (Krcmdc and Keith included) are incredibly nice and willing to go out of their way to help other members learn and advance their game. They were obvsly happy to risk what was (to them) a small amount of money in the hopes they could better another member. It didn't go as well as they liked but shit happens. Hopefully it doesn't turn them sour on doing it in the future.

[krcmdc]

Just an FYI. The site that this deal came thru is fairly small and the people involved (Krcmdc and Keith included) are incredibly nice and willing to go out of their way to help other members learn and advance their game. They were obvsly happy to risk what was (to them) a small amount of money in the hopes they could better another member. It didn't go as well as they liked but shit happens. Hopefully it doesn't turn them sour on doing it in the future.

Thanks for the kind words, but I'd think that Slevin would likely disagree. I guess I'm missing something from his background that everyone else here knows because I really don't understand all the hate he's getting here. He's a degen, a lot of people are, but they don't get the kind of hate Slevin has gotten over this situation. I mean damn, it was $120, it was a decent dinner and people want his legs broken, seems a bit extreme to me.

He did exactly what everyone seems to have known he would do. But, imo, he really tried not to do it. He put a ton of effort and enthusiasm into a complete no win situation and then to top it off, he did not receive the support he was promised. It was doomed from the start, which was my fault. And it inevitably failed, which was at least as much my fault as it was Slevins. I honestly believe that things would have been different had I done what I was suppose to do.

And no this hasn't soured us on these types of things. In fact, if legislation ever passes and I can get rid of this ridiculous "real job" I've been forced into, I'd even be willing to give Slevin another chance.

[PlayToWin]

Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

The argument for legal poker, as I understand it, is whether or not it's a game of skill. If it is, then it should be legal. Otherwise, it is just gambling like roulette or blackjack. And we all know that gambling is only socially acceptable in certain states. There will always be degenerates like slevin, but that's beside the point.

[Keith]

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one.

If you are looking at it purely in a results orientated way , then yeah we picked the wrong guy. However as a poker player you should look beyond the short term result and look at the long term picture.
Maybe Slevin was the perfect guy for us to do this with. We got a complete degenerate who had never ground a roll at a stake before to do that and make enough money to move up in stakes even if it was due to bonuses.But he was also able to demonstrate the flaws in the plan. If some one had sailed through with no problems we could have taken more students on and multiplied up the problems that we could have faced with later students.
We learnt a lot from the experience, the deficiences in the contract , things we could do better, things we should change for any future students,what the likely earnings are going to be, warning signs to watch out for, when we should just decide that for a paticular student they have gone as far as we can take them etc. That will benefit us as well as any future students.

[krcmdc]

Just so that it's known by everyone with an interest in this debacle...

Slevin contacted me today and offered repayment in full. I declined, he doesn't owe me (nor anyone else) anything stemming from this mess.

Assuming that his FTR banning stemmed solely from this disaster, I'd like to ask again that his ban be reversed. He would never have been banned in the first place had I known about this thread.

[Keith]

slevin contacted me yesterday as well by email and skype and offered to pay me or KRCMDC. I told him to contact KRC and gave him contact details.

[Sasquach991]

Why, all of a sudden , has he decided to repay anyone? I thought he claimed he didn't owe you anything.

His rep has turned to shit and he's trying to recover?

[WeaselT]

binked a tourney maybe..?