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Old 12-24-2011, 02:55 AM     Post subject: Put hero on a goddamn range part II- The 6max years #1 (permalink)  
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 The original full ring version of this operation basically sucked because I didn’t have a clear direction to take it. I think I was hoping to start with a good idea and it would set its own course, eventually creating a solid foundation to build from. Basically all I got from it was a hand chart on a desktop sticky. Black Friday dealt the final blow to that op as well as my poker aspirations, at least for a little while.

After black Friday I wandered around the wasteland of US friendly poker sites trying to get a fix from anywhere I could; freerolls, play money on stars and even Zinga poker on facebook (pathetic). If Zinga chips were real money I’d be a millionaire. Eventually I binked a freeroll on Cake for $5. With the gods on my side I played $1 sngs and somehow drove my roll up to $20. I started grinding 4nl and eventually started taking shots at 10. With help from rakeback and some more freeroll moniez I’m solidly rolled for 10nl and taking shots at 20.

I switched to 6max because fullring on cake is a fucking nitfest and was boring the crap out of me. Over 20k hands I have a decent winrate at 6max but that’s pretty much from just mashing buttons and running good against mega whales. Which has been fine but I’d like to get out of the micros someday so I guess it’s time to try to start learning again.

For this operation I’m using HEMs “perfect your game” articles as a guide. It’s written for 50nl+ and I’m not sure how outdated it is but it’s a good place to start. I’ll be copy pasting basically everything from the articles and compare my stats with those from winning 6max players. I realize just mimicking good players isn’t the best way to become a great poker player but that’s not what this is about, it’s about building a solid foundation.

So let’s kick this thing off. Here’s the link to the first article for anyone that wants to play along. res://HMArticles.exe/PluggingLeaks1.html *edit- dunno why the link isn't working, I'll try to fix that.

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There are some glaringly obvious leaks here even without the comparisons. The gap between vpip and pfr is way too big and I’ve actually started working on that. Somehow I just got a little too cally. I didn’t have a HUD for most of these hands and it seems to help keep me in line if I can see my own stats during the session. I realize this is a leak in itself but I need to focus on one thing at a time. I like having a place to start so I think I’ll leave it at the introduction and get down to business later. As always, all comments, suggestions and beratements are encouraged.
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 Hi supa!

I never really understood the argument against having a gap in your vpip and pfr. ABCD says we have a calling range, and with ppl raising a ton...and us being restricted in how much its optimal to 3bet (for value or a bluff), it seems something like this is reasonable. Obviously the gap is bad if its the result of limping though, and also if its too wide because you could probably 3bet or fold more instead. I'd say 6% is fine though, idk. Set mining 77-22 is ~3%, and its not hard to add some broadways and strong sc's that arent good 3bet hands (Stuff like AJ, ATs that would be lol to fold, depending on the raisers range of course).

If you're finding you're losing money in these cally spots...i think u should focus more on adjusting your strategy with when and what you call with rather than maintaining a close vpip/pfr. Obviously i havent played in a year so whatever, but it makes sense to me! :P
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I get what you're saying and agree to an extent. I think for me it's not limping but calling raises in places I'm not sure what to do. Like places where I could be 3betting but I don't know whether or not I'm actually doing it for value, so I just call. I guess it's really just a matter of if I don't know why I'm calling I shouldn't be.

I'm glad you brought up ABCD because it's something I need to spend more time with and understand. It's obv what this op is about so incorporating it in here makes sense. I haven't had time to get rolling on this thing with the holidays and me being a degen grinder and a bit of a lush, but I'll get it going soon.

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The following shows average bb/100 for players using a datamined database of NL 6 Max from NL100 to NL1000 over the last 6 months – I took results from the 1790 players with at least 5K hands in the database. For each stat I have grouped results into 5 equal ranges and then taken the median bb/100. Often it is more meaningful to look at combinations of stats but this should give you a general guide.


Median bb/100
VPIP: < 18.3 2.18
18.3 to 20.2 3.46
20.2 to 21.9 3.04
21.9 to 25.3 3.72
25.3 + -2.76
At 24.3 we’re looking good according to above but I think with my postflop skills this number could stand to be lower. Probably watching out for things like calling out of position is the best solution here. I also find myself limping behind with Axs or suited connectors which I probably should be raising. Thoughts?

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Now, if you are in that bottom group what do you do? Well, if you have never had a VPIP below about 22 then taking steps to get below this would make a big impact on your game. Throw away a lot more hands from early position and the blinds to get your VPIP down and you should find that you are more profitable and can play more tables and face less difficult decisions. Once you have learned how to play very well with a lowish VPIP and you have spent a lot of time working on your postflop play, that is where you can safely return your VPIP to higher levels. Some of the most profitable players in the game have VPIP’s in that last section but they do this by exploiting players, mixing up their play and constantly making +ev decisions postflop.
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PFR < 12.3 -0.97
12.3 to 14.4 2.48
14.4 to 16.1 2.27
16.1 to 17.7 3.84
17.7+ + 3.64


This clearly shows that being aggressive preflop is key. Really you want to generally be above 15% here. Generally profitable ways to increase your PFR% would be raising limpers instead of calling, 3betting raisers especially when they raise from late position and stealing more blinds.
Nothing really wrong here. I’m in the higher group but not by much. Same as with vpip I could probably tighten up just a little.


I jumped ahead for this next one but I felt like it belonged here. While at 77% I’m doing ok, this shows that there is a correlation between a closer vpip/pfr ratio and I could stand to squeeze this together a little more. But as JKDS noted, this probably isn’t a good substitute for better postflop strategy.



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Do You Have Sufficient preflop Aggression?

What we are looking for here is your PFR% divided by VPIP% and in the report you just ran it appears as a PFR / VPIP value. This tells you how often are you raising preflop out of all the times you put in money preflop. In the original article Pokey suggested your ratio be at least 50% but higher is better. In todays 6 max games anything close to 50% makes it extremely difficult to be a profitable player.

Here is the data from the mined database showing a strong correlation that high values lead to profitability although there is a point where not calling once in a while begins to impact your results as well. What was consistent is that very few people with a ratio less than 0.60 were winning players. If you are in that bottom group you need to raise more often preflop and call less often. When there are players limping in ahead of you, raise them (or fold) when you would normally call. When a player open from late position, 3bet him instead of cold calling etc.

Note: The database used hands from 4 to 6 handed No Limit and only included players with at least 5000 hands - this resulted in a sample size of about 1800 players. Using the median bb/100 is an effective way of overcoming sample size issues related to bb/100.


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PFR / VPIP < 0.57 -2.76
0.57 to 0.72 2.04
0.72 to 0.79 3.50
0.79 to 0.83 3.93
0.83 + 2.95
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Nice blog so far supa.

Looks like I too need to bring my PFR/VPIP% up.
I'd really like a link to the original HEM articles, although I'm a PT user, not HEM, so not sure if I'll be able to access them.

I totaly get what you mean when you say its a NIT fest at the Cake full rings. You saw my post about struggling on Cake. I've found the 4NL 6max to be pretty damn tight there too. I'm finding it really tough to find any Whales. My schedule forces me to play mostly durring the morning and day time hours though so that might have a lot to do with it. Have you found any specific times durring the day or night to be more profitable on Cake?
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 your stats look fine, you'll find that bad regs pay you off stupidly when you're flashin' larger than average regstats up front -- just keep workin' on postflop and you'll do fine. If you think you're playing scared at 20NL then start using your brain more and vagina less and remember that the regs are still not better than you cuz half of them break even and some even lose.
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 As it turns out the HEM articles are incorporated into HEM so no links available. I'll be copy pasting the pertinent information here, but this is mostly just so I can keep track of my progress and hopefully the people at HEM don't get pissed about it.

@Nickels- You really shouldn't be having too big of a problem at 4nl. If you're not winning your doing something really wrong. Even if you can't find whales you should be able to beat the nits for at least 5bb/100. I think the earlier hrs are harder to find great tables, but there's usually pretty big fish on cake at all times of the day. I played on a 20nl table this morning with 4 players that had vpip' of >45.

How many tables are you playing? This might be part of your problem. If your playing 6 or 8 tables I'd suggest dropping to 4 at the most, prolly 2 would be better. Mostly make sure you're playing tight, aggressive, positionally aware poker. Value bet your strong hands and don't try to get tricky. Slowplaying will cost you value, people call down with an amazing amount of crazy shit.

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 I love it that you're using Spoon's "Put him on a g**damn range" as the title to this operation. How ya been? Hope it's all good with you. I'll be following along to see your progress.
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Yep, it's a really interesting thing. The last time I was able to use poker profits in the real world I was forced to cash out from stars by the DOJ. This time it's like, 'I want this, and hey, I actually have some cash over here I can use'. Who knew?
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I love it that you're using Spoon's "Put him on a g**damn range" as the title to this operation. How ya been? Hope it's all good with you. I'll be following along to see your progress.
Gotta keep spoon alive somehow.

Things have been good. Back to work full time again and it looks like at the next few years are gonna be really great. Working for a company that's building a couple hospitals locally so the works good and the pay isn't half bad either. Getting used to working my ass off again isn't easy but I don't remember anyone saying life would be. Now it's a matter of finding a balance between everything, esp when I'm dead tired. It's starting to take a toll on my br because I'm playing to often just because I found the time, but I'm nowhere near playing my A game. Need to step back and keep that in check.

I'll try to get back into this op and make some headway on it. I tend to get lazy and lose interest so feel free to pop in slap me around a bit if I'm slacking off.

Nice to see you around again. How've you been? Still livin in the sticks?
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If someone was in need of living under a pier they couldn't choose a better one. But no, not living under it, but it isn't a very far walk.
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 Awesome!

I see after some looking through the BC that Spoon's "put him on a range" is a no no now? Now it's trolling?

Next thing, you'll tell me FTR gave up advocating nitty br management.

Yep, I'm still in the sticks of North Georgia, in that part of the U.S. where you often hear: "I'm Bulldog born, and Bulldog bred, and when I die I'll be by-God Bulldog dead."

Loving life, just trying to get back on FTR and learn which is up in the poker world once more.

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If anyone's has some ideas I'm looking for a topic to research for my 1000th post. I'm not looking for anything too technical but something I can benefit from while researching and may be useful in the BC. I'm thinking bet sizing or value betting or something along those lines. Ideas are much appreciated.
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Starting the "Insanity" work out tomorrow. 60 days of crazy high intensity work outs. Looks like hell. Actually looks like the hardest part is gonna be eating enough calories throughout the day. Should be interesting.
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i think the age-old B/F vs C/C on the river thing doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. i think most of us micro/SS grinders could be doing much better if we had a sharpened intuitive sense of when to be B/Fing marginal value hands and when it's best to C/C, what factors go into this decision etc etc.
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i think the age-old B/F vs C/C on the river thing doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. i think most of us micro/SS grinders could be doing much better if we had a sharpened intuitive sense of when to be B/Fing marginal value hands and when it's best to C/C, what factors go into this decision etc etc.
Good idea, thanks.

I'm trying to iron out my lagtard tendencies this month. I just keep running myself into shitty spots playing to many hands. This is all so far this month. The first big losses on the graph were 20nl and really just standard but hit the bankroll hard enough so I dropped to 10nl. Started adding 20nl tables again at 15buys.

Stuck myself on a crap table at the end there which is a big issue for me. If the table sets up bad like this I need to leave it and start a new one.

20nl vpip is scary low there. Could be sample size but that's with starting tables. I think I just over compensated trying to tagg it up. Gotta keep an eye on that.
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Yep. Started this yesterday morning. Went to work and installed two 500lb wall mounted VFDs (just me and 1 other guy) and got up and did the workout again this morning :P
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It's Friday!

Cashout no longer says 'pending'!

Bankroll's on the steady climb up!

Cake gold card games are back to cash payouts instead of tickets into games you can win more tickets...! I either have a huge edge or run really good (or both) in these so I'm stoke to get to play these again. Huge boost to my roll last time.
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