Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

[Shotglass]

village we have this game practically locked up. we have killed the turncoat, our angel survives to protect me, and lolzz fate will be determined soon (hes pretty much def wolf or medium). also we have 2 wolfy people about to meet their demise. we have numbers and control

We do...if you're not pulling our legs

[supa]

Angel, please protect lolzzz.

Vig, please shoot gabe.

[wufwugy]

wtf is wrong with people

gabe is OBVIOUSLY a wolf. he is OBVIOUSLY trying to trick everybody

[gabe]

id be glad to switch the lynch vote to benny just so i could shoot you in the face wuf. if you really are smart then you must be a wolf who is out of ideas....

[wufwugy]

my only problem with lynching gabe is like gator said, his role is made out no matter what. the problem is that i am also obviously a villager, and i WANT to lynch fulksy so i dont have to die, but im cool with lynching gabe becuase he's never the vig here unless he's deliberately trying to fuck up that role (which he could be, his method of playing wolves so far appears to be deliberate fuckups)

i think bikes is one of the last players whos a wolf, so im not gonna jump on that. i mean i would if it was neck and neck with me and him becuase i know im a villager, but im trying to make the lynch the right lynch here

[wufwugy]

id be glad to switch the lynch vote to benny just so i could shoot you in the face wuf. if you really are smart then you must be a wolf who is out of ideas....

keep telling the angel to protect you when you KNOW that he should protect lolz

[Shotglass]

wtf is wrong with people

gabe is OBVIOUSLY a wolf. he is OBVIOUSLY trying to trick everybody

Sorry, wuf. Looks like the gallows for you.
We'll know if Gabe's the vig or not after tonight, assuming that the angel protects lolzzz and the real vig shoots Gabe. OR the angel protects lolzzz, gabe shoots benny and then gets nommed.

Either way, Gabe was right. After tonight we'll have so much inofrmation that this game is almost a lock.

[gabe]

so u do believe lolz is the medium? bigred said to him i was a special role. why would he bring attention to me if i was a wolf? is bigred allowed to lie i guess?

[Shotglass]

so u do believe lolz is the medium? bigred said to him i was a special role. why would he bring attention to me if i was a wolf? is bigred allowed to lie i guess?

he pretty much nailed you on not being a villager

[wufwugy]

angel let me live. i think its bad to protect lolzzz because hes not 100% a special role, theres still a decent chance hes pulling our leg.

exact same can be said for you except that we KNOW you do this shit. there is zero reason to believe lolz just spazzed and hes a wolf and HUGE reason for you being the normal spazzy gabe you have proven you are

maybe he correctly deduced i was a special role because i was on the list and used it as part of his wolfy plans. the wolves can kill him and we'll know hes the medium, or he can live and 2 things can happen: 1) the wolves chose someone else and he should be able to give us some info, 2)hes the wolf, and by this point the real medium should step forward with new info, knowing that we can bag a wolf in lolzzzz

but how could the real medium step forward when hes dead because you convinced the angel to protect you so you and your buddies could nom the medium?

and lolzz fate will be determined soon (hes pretty much def wolf or medium).

wtf no. there is one and only one thing you're doing with this: trying to make sure that you get to nom lolz at night. lolz is not a fucking wolf. maybe if his name was gabe and he spazzed out with trick outings for the lolz (pun) and straight livin, then he could be a wolf. but hes not a wolf, you are

[gabe]

i just had a good idea. no one is really defending benny, so i think the wolves want me to cap him. im going to switch my shot to ongabonga. yeee?

[wufwugy]

Sorry, wuf. Looks like the gallows for you.
We'll know if Gabe's the vig or not after tonight, assuming that the angel protects lolzzz and the real vig shoots Gabe. OR the angel protects lolzzz, gabe shoots benny and then gets nommed.

Either way, Gabe was right. After tonight we'll have so much inofrmation that this game is almost a lock.

and this is exactly why i said we should lynch fulksy. you guys are seriously passing up lynching an obvious wolf while lynching an obvious villager who is pwning the shit out of this game. im day one mvp, day two mvp, and im gonna die

at the very least i want to keep the wolves from having the satisfaction of being able to claim they got me lynched. most of my wagon is people refusing to get off becuase THEYRE NOT EVEN PLAYING

[gabe]

meh nevermind i dont want people to go crazy. im still shooting benny

[gabe]

most of my wagon is people refusing to get off becuase THEYRE NOT EVEN PLAYING

i hear ya, and this sucks. but fwiw u could have helped get someone on my small list lynched when i first outed myself and saved yourself... i never encouraged lynching u (lately)

[GatorJH]

it doesn't matter. If you're not the vig you will get shot tonight so as long as that doesn't happen you should be good imo (or our vig is horribad).

[Shotglass]

most of my wagon is people refusing to get off becuase THEYRE NOT EVEN PLAYING

That part is sad and true. I agree that lynching a non contributor is prolly best, but I'm not on your wagon. Most of those that are prolly won't be on in time to derail it. Even if all of us that are online voted for fulksy I still don't think it'd be enough.

[wufwugy]

i hear ya, and this sucks. but fwiw u could have helped get someone on my small list lynched when i first outed myself and saved yourself... i never encouraged lynching u (lately)

so in one breath im never a wolf then in next you're lynching me?

get real

[gabe]

@gator right, i guess im allowed to shoot whoever then....

wuf is it really so impossible that im the vig?

[Hoopy]

lynch fulksy

[gabe]

ok rilla luckily im in boarding zone 4...

[wufwugy]

rescind gabe lynch fulksy

[Shotglass]

what the hell, I'll give it a try:
rescind bikes
lynch fulksy

[wufwugy]

@gator right, i guess im allowed to shoot whoever then....

wuf is it really so impossible that im the vig?

not impossible, but very unlikely, and much less likely than me being a wolf.

i mean, dude, you're making cases that are just not there that are only cases you would make if 1) you're a wolf, 2) you're terrible, 3) you don't care

signs are mostly at 1)

[gabe]

you're making cases that are just not there that are only cases you would make if 1) you're a wolf, 2) you're terrible, 3) you don't care

signs are mostly at 1)

ok we'll see whose team wins =] my money is on the village

[wufwugy]

Everybody who reads this before the deadline, ask yourself one question: who would you rather have lynched; wuf or fulksy?

It's a judgement call, and sucks either way. I don't mean to scapegoat fulksy, but he's a good lynch regardless of what has happened this weekend, and I guess you could say I know I'm a villager so....and fulksy is a unreadable low level participant so....

[wufwugy]

ok we'll see whose team wins =] my money is on the village

yeah well after im lynched and you're shot by the vig, I'm supporting the wolves

[gabe]

im gonna review the good vig shots. i would love to hear from benny before he gets silenced

[wufwugy]

To expand, a werewolf being dead plays like a werewolf being dead. Upon dying, the player acquires the abilities of the classical seer. If, for whatever reason, the Medium taps that player, the Medium will hear that players words.

What I don't understand is the point of this. A Dead Villager is Team Villager and will not lie, but a Dead Turncoat or Dead Werewolf will lie because they're on Team Werewolf. Which defeats the purpose of the proxy seer power of Dead/Medium.

Are you saying that the information relayed to the Medium from the Dead could not be a lie?

[BennyLaRue]

Am I dead yet? No? Maybe tonight, you say? Hmm...

Yeah, Gabe is the vig. The way that went down, I have no doubt about it. And he probably just fucked us over by pointing out all the specials. All of them? Yeah...

...BECAUSE I AM THE ANGEL!!!

No wagon on me and I still have to out myself. What a ridic set of circumstances, including me being gone today. And the worst part is, the suspicion on me started for absolutely no reason, save for wuf and Gabe didn't like me pointing things out about them. I guess I was wrong about Gabe. But maybe pay attention a little better next time, Gabe, and you won't be posting such wolfy looking inconsistencies.

And to you, Dan, with the leadership bullshit. Thanks for pointing THAT out.

Need to read the thread over again before posting on anything other topics.

[GatorJH]

This is terrible timing. I'm going to be gone all day but don't lynch me.

I was checking out his posts today to see why he seemed wolfish and noticed this so I doubt he is around for any defense post.

[wufwugy]

i feel like benny is also a wolf, but its tough now

[wufwugy]

unless benny grunched the thread, i dont think he should have come out as the angel if he truly is. gabe's vig outing is not even close to confirmed not-fake

[GatorJH]

this game went epic in a single day.

Wow!!

[wufwugy]

another thing to know is that both gabe and benny are dead sooner than later, so they could still both be wolves playing this stupid game

[wufwugy]

can i ask for an extension on time, rilla?

[Shotglass]

wtf just happened? OMFG!!

[wufwugy]

can i ask for an extension on time, rilla?

and if somebody wants to second that pleeeeease

[wufwugy]

lynch fulksy people, dont let me die here. something is clearly going on, and im firmly on one side of it, and it would be a mistake to kill me now regardless of that side, imo

[BennyLaRue]

I think I had no choice. Can't see Gabe as a wolf here and don't think he'd lie about being the vig as a villager when the real vig would just shoot him in the face. Why would he sacrifice himself as a wolf in this spot? There's no one buying any villager cred if Gabe dies.

[wufwugy]

I think I had no choice. Can't see Gabe as a wolf here and don't think he'd lie about being the vig as a villager when the real vig would just shoot him in the face. Why would he sacrifice himself as a wolf in this spot? There's no one buying any villager cred if Gabe dies.

because he did the same exact thing when you were his wolf buddy in WnV, if anybody knows why he did such a bad move, it should be you

[wufwugy]

fulksy hasn't posted since freaking friday, people

lynch him for jebus sake. i refuse to give the wolves the 65% credit they will get for getting me lynched today. if im a wolf you can EASILY lynch me later, and if im a villager and im right im doing the best of all villagers by far

[BennyLaRue]

He did that in WnV on his own. I had no idea what he was doing that game, tbh.

[wufwugy]

He did that in WnV on his own. I had no idea what he was doing that game, tbh.

And everything he's done in this game WRT his outing is exactly the same as that game

People tend to repeat themselves. SDM likes to fake out as a villager when under heat, gabe likes to fake out when he's a wolf just for shits and giggles in an attempt to get a real outing, get somebody lynched, god knows what....

The bottom line is that you guys all know he's a wolf because he keeps making that dire mistake of continuously trying to convince the angel to protect his alleged vigness instead of the medium. And you know I'm a villager because I'm the only one slamming the pwnage down on his lies, and I would never do that as a wolf because it won't gain me one ounce of immunity from future lynchings or from the real dead/medium or the real vig

since you all dont wanna lynch gabe, lynch fulksy. he's not even playing. aint posted since friday. but you have to know that lynching me is lynching a villager. i have done way too many things this game that i could not as a wolf. its one thing to try to be tricky, its another thing to try to defy statistical probailities of that trickiness paying off. you guys know i would do the former, but not the latter, yet my play in this game could only be the latter if i was a wolf

[a500lbgorilla]

What I don't understand is the point of this. A Dead Villager is Team Villager and will not lie, but a Dead Turncoat or Dead Werewolf will lie because they're on Team Werewolf. Which defeats the purpose of the proxy seer power of Dead/Medium.

Are you saying that the information relayed to the Medium from the Dead could not be a lie?

All I'm saying is that if the Medium chooses to tap a dead player, he will hear that player's words. Whatever he thinks of those words, and what he does with them is fully up to him.

You are mistaken in thinking the Medium's purpose is for proxy seer powers. The Medium's purpose is to commune with the dead and the dead happen to glimpse the truth of things as they transition from living to otherwise.

[Shotglass]

I see a wuf lynch in the near future

[a500lbgorilla]

can i ask for an extension on time, rilla?

The deadline was set 3 or 4 days ago and it has been more than generous considering Labo(u)r day.

Day ends in ~45 minutes.

[BennyLaRue]

The addition of the (u) was the real generous bit.

[supa]

I'm always about getting picked to be a special because I might fuck whatever special role I get horribly. Not so much anymore because this is some hilariously bad special play if it's all true. Dunno how much time is left but I guess I'll rescind wuf and lynch fulksy. Honestly, if we have time I think we should switch to ragnar coz he's gonna get modkilled anyway, so I'll switch if that can take off fast.

If benny isn't the angel, the angel should not out and should protect lolzzz imo. If he is he's dead anyway so if gabe is the vig he should still shoot benny as to prove himself I think. I could be wrong about that but it makes sense to me. Obv if gabe isn't the vig then the vig should still shoot gabe.

Oic, we have like 1/2 an hour.

[supa]

Whats the score?

[supa]

Oh, nevermind the ragnar thing, obv not enough time.

[supa]

^^^Should have read always worried about...

[Shotglass]

If benny's the real angel then he gets nommed.
Gabe to prove himself should still shoot benny...sorry.
If Gabe's not the vig then obv the real one shoots gabe and if benny don't get nommed then he;s prime wolf suspect, imo.
Even with supa rescinding wuf I think that he still needs one more to switch for a coin flip. Unless my count is off.

Mr. Moderator - in the event of a lynch vote tie what happens?

[BennyLaRue]

If he is he's dead anyway so if gabe is the vig he should still shoot benny as to prove himself I think. I could be wrong about that but it makes sense to me.

You're probably right that I am dead anyway since I can't protect myself but we should not confirm that we are making any of these moves. If the wolves know Gabe is going to shoot me, they won't try to eat me. The wasted nom would be a good thing. If the wolves know I'll protect lolzz, they won't try to eat lolzzz, etc.

Stop talking about the special moves. It's basic villager strat.

[supa]

Looks like Wuf 6- fulksy 4

[Shotglass]

Gabe is going to shoot me, they won't try to eat me.

I don't think he can shoot you, I doubt he's the real vig.

[a500lbgorilla]

Mr. Moderator - in the event of a lynch vote tie what happens?

A coin is flipped. In midair, I fire the quick six. If I hit an even number of times, player A dies - odd, player B goes.

[supa]

Basic villager strat isn't gonna win this game imo. You may be right or you may be a wolf but if Gabe doesn't shoot you (provided he's the vig) then the village has nothing to go on and all this crazy info from today gets lost with prolly most or all of our specials being dead. Plus nobody listens to me anyway. If gabe is the vig then he prolly knows what to do anyway so yeah, I'll stfu now.

[a500lbgorilla]

5 votes for wufwugy (Benny, fulsky, OB, gabe, Warpe)
4 votes for fulsky (supa, wufwugy, shotglass, Hoopy)
2 votes for DanA (bikes, lolzzz)
2 votes for Hoopy (boog, TLR)
2 votes for bikes (DanA, Gator)
1 votes for gabe (DTB)
1 votes for Benny (JV)

[wufwugy]

Benny has not flipped because he's not the angel

[BennyLaRue]

Benny has not flipped because he's not the angel

Benny has not flipped because nothing has changed with respect to the case against you.

Fulksy gives us no information and this day is a waste.

[wufwugy]

both gabe and benny were on the chopping block in the near future, this is their concoction to try to out or find the vig and angel and help the remaining wolf. if im right, dan and dtb are probably villager, but who knows

i cannot believe benny has not flipped though. he loses nothing by flipping to fulksy, and he never ever even made a case to lynch me in the first place. bong is gone, and the rest are not paying attention.

[wufwugy]

Benny has not flipped because nothing has changed with respect to the case against you.

Fulksy gives us no information and this day is a waste.

you're right, nothing has changed. there was no case in the first place, and their isnt now

your only reference was bongie posting some super serial read on bigred being cryptic tyring to communicate with me in a fashion that isnt actually distinguishable from if he WASNT trying to communicate with me

cmon

[Shotglass]

we'll know a lot more in ~7 minutes

[BennyLaRue]

you're right, nothing has changed. there was no case in the first place, and their isnt now

your only reference was bongie posting some super serial read on bigred being cryptic tyring to communicate with me in a fashion that isnt actually distinguishable from if he WASNT trying to communicate with me

cmon

Your defense has been epic, in length, but has contained no real points.

Like it or not, it's evidence, and we need to sort it out. No one, and I mean NO ONE, has made a convincing case against anyone else.

[wufwugy]

so im gonna die.

im over it. if im right, wolves would just nom me anyways. i take solace in the fact that im partly my own undoing, as i let my wagon fill up with people not paying attention, then push comes to shove, lose the race

[Shotglass]

hey!
I thought I had a pretty convincing case against Gabe, until he outted

[GatorJH]

Benny has not flipped because nothing has changed with respect to the case against you.

Fulksy gives us no information and this day is a waste.

I disagree and think we got a TON of info today. I would rather give someone who is at least interested in the game another shot rather than someone who doesn't appear to care.

rescind bikes, lynch fulksy

[wufwugy]

Your defense has been epic, in length, but has contained no real points.

Like it or not, it's evidence, and we need to sort it out. No one, and I mean NO ONE, has made a convincing case against anyone else.

the case for gabe is better than me, for you is better than me, and for fulksy better than me

you're assuming there's even a case for me. there is no case for me, i played this entire game in a fashion that i would not if a wolf

lol at me letting myself get a huge wagon on day two as a wolf. just lol. occams razor says it was what it was all along, that im just a villager who laughed at silly soulreads thinking they knew what they were doing

[Shotglass]

and the race is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wufwugy]

oooohhh gator coming it with the bomb, giving me a coinflip of a shotttttttttt

[wufwugy]

someone else cmoncmoncmon someones gotta be lurking before a500lbitch gets hurr

[supa]

Nobody that could change it is online right now. You're flipping.

[a500lbgorilla]

One JFK half dollar judges the following: fulsky (heads) v wufwugy (tails).

We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are coinflips.

fulsky, a villager was hanged on Day 2.

As for Ragnar4, as the details for what is expected to survive modkilling weren't made explicitly clear until after his most recent log-in, and his contributions on day 2 are commensurate with other survivors like Warpe and JV, I'll put him to a coinflip as well.

Ragnar4 lives.

The village of Netherlife:

BennyLaRue
Bikes
Boog690
DanAronG
DropTheBanana
GatorJH
Gabe
Hoopy
Jackvance
Lolzzz_321
OngBonga
Philly and the phanatics
Ragnar
Shotglass
Supa
TLR
Wufwugy
Warpe

3 Werewolves
1 Angel
1 Medium
1 Vigilante
12 Villagers
3 Dead

bigred, the Turncoat, lynched on day 1
Willburforce, a villager, eaten on night 1
fulksy, a villager, lynched on day 2

Vig has one bullet, angel has one protect, werewolves have one kill, newly minted dead have one look-up, Medium has one "tap". Appropriate parties PM me.

[a500lbgorilla]

Some shit happened. Check it out.

The village of Netherlife:

Bikes
Boog690
DropTheBanana
GatorJH
Gabe
Hoopy
Jackvance
Lolzzz_321
OngBonga
Philly and the phanatics
Ragnar
Shotglass
Supa
TLR
Wufwugy
Warpe

2 Werewolves
1 Angel
1 Medium
1 Vigilante
11 Villagers
5 Dead

bigred, the Turncoat, lynched on day 1
Willburforce, a villager, eaten on night 1
fulksy, a villager, lynched on day 2
BennyLaRue, a werewolf, shot on night 2
DanAronG, a villager, eaten on night 2

Newly minted dead, feel free to pm me your look ups. Looks like 9 votes to lynch a man.

[a500lbgorilla]

Day 3 will end at 9 PM EST on Thursday. So time is already sparse.