Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

[wufwugy]

I think both dan and benny are wolves

There's a lot of small evidences for who's in the village camp and who's in the wolf camp, and none of the village camp ones apply to either of them. I'm a little taken aback at Benny just letting my wagon go. In every game, I always talk about how the wolves may wanna try to railroad me because it's mega bragging rights since it's never been done, and Benny is probably one of the few who would remember that and consider it. I didn't wanna mention that this game because I had a similar read on Ragnar in last game and it was wrong. I don't like being wrong

Anyways, Benny seems way to happy to lynch me compared to what I would expect. Not to mention that he's claiming strategy stuff that I have in the past, yet he's not sticking with that and is making a wuf lynch an exception. On top of that, he's not really giving any reason for why to lynch me, he's just playing follow-the-leader and saying how he's "cool with keeping his vote etc". I expect more of Benny, and I think he wants me to die. There's a reason why EVERYBODY on my wagon are low content, nub, or somewhat whimsical players. Except Benny and Warpe of course. Benny because he wants me dead and Warpe because he's not paying attention

[philly and the phanatics]

Think about it why would BR vote for me near the end of day 1? It doesn't make sense to if I was a wolf as it doesn't help the wolf team.

Not sure if I trust gabe at this point but he seems to make sense, supa would be a good lynch today imo.

Why has Dan got votes?

think about what gabe just said.

Bigred knows he is going to die, so him defending a wolf wufwugy would be dumb. Whereas conversely, he could bold a wolf because "lol why would the turncoat be bolding wolves".

i'm still not sold on wuf's innocence and im down to see him hang.

[philly and the phanatics]

i do however agree with wuf about benny's sketchiness, and if wuf comes back a villager, i would be down to string him (benny) up next.

[bikes]

why oh why are we stringing wuf adswfwarfer

[philly and the phanatics]

fine fuck you all lol rescind wuf

[gabe]

rescind w/e and lynch benny
benny ur too smart for ur own good


now the fun starts...lets see who defends benny!!!!

[Shotglass]

Just re-read most of this. Curious and supsicious.

rescind Wuf
Lynch Gabe

[jackvance]

Ok sorry I have been so inactive, been kinda sick. Just read through the thread, not much to go on, but gonna bold this time:

lynch benny

[Shotglass]

I can actually go for either Benny or Gabe. Both of their posts are really suspicious.

[supa]

Switching from wuf to gabe doesn't make any sense to me as if one is a wolf they both prolly are. Switching to benny seems more logical as they're pretty much in different camps. Actually a coin flip between the two would prolly net a wolf half the time.

[Shotglass]

I got off the jack for a few hours and re-read it.

Gabe has made a series of left turn, out there suspicious posts.
From what I've read of his past games, he does this really well and follows it up with "rah, rah for the village"

Random out of the blue bote:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2053303

Random out of the blue vote # 2:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2053821

Added effort for random vote # 2:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2053928Although he had a good point about wuf.

Weak defense:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054006

Give me a break, do you seriously expect us to think that you don't know game mechanics:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054028http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054087

Rah, Rah village:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054154

Similar defensive strategy as a wolf/vamp:http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1988526
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1988145

Similar in St Valentines day: as a wolf

Y'all can read the past games yourselves.

He's played enough games to know the mechanics. His posts are just random crap thown out there so that he looks active. True, he and wuf look really similar in this game but I'm gonna throw red a bone and say that he's not stupid enough to play the turncoat as bad as people (me, ong etc) think he did.

[BennyLaRue]

Anyways, Benny seems way to happy to lynch me compared to what I would expect. Not to mention that he's claiming strategy stuff that I have in the past

Dude, please, I've played this card every game as a villager. It's optimal strategy and you didn't invent it.

I've got Gabe and wuf coming at me simply because I've targetted them. There are no reasons other than that.

[rong]

Gabe, you're all over the place. I could happily lynch you, and considering you've just switched your vote from me to Benny this prob isn't the smartest move I could make, especially considering I find Benny far too laid back this game compared to other games I've seen him play, but I think you could be a better option, and I think if you are a wolf, wuf could be one too.

lynch Gabe

[rong]

And rescind Hoopy obv

[BennyLaRue]

especially considering I find Benny far too laid back this game compared to other games

Yeah, this has got to stop right now. I was the seer last game I played and I outed myself Day 2. I was in a perfect position to lead the village. I can't do that at the moment, there's very little logical problem solving that you can do on Day 2 aside from setting up a systematic approach like I've suggested or unless someone fucks up large.

[rong]

Oh yeah, forgot that, and forgetting that may have skewed my thinking.

[rong]

I no longer find you suspicious, I now want to lynch Gabe.

[BooG690]

Gabe never posts like that as a wolf...ever.

[BennyLaRue]

Gabe never posts like that as a wolf...ever.

It's a very similar style to how he played in Wolves and Vamps. Or are you talking about a specific post?

[Shotglass]

Gabe never posts like that as a wolf...ever.

What's your proof?

[Shotglass]

Or basically: I showed you mine, now show me yours

[gabe]

Gabe never posts like that as a wolf...ever.

for real!!

dana/benny both of you should review when and why you started pushing for a wuf lynch. if you still believe, how do you dispute the aforementioned details about bigred/wuf? it makes a ton of sense that both of you are wolves (not to mention u both on the special list). i dont think shotglass is a wolve, just misguided. respond!!!

[rong]

Read the thread dude. At what point in this game did I ever want to lynch wuf?

[gabe]

my mistake. why the hell do u want to lynch me over benny?

[BennyLaRue]

for real!!

dana/benny both of you should review when and why you started pushing for a wuf lynch. if you still believe, how do you dispute the aforementioned details about bigred/wuf?

Which details would those be?

[BennyLaRue]

my mistake. why the hell do u want to lynch me over benny?

Maybe because you're glossing over facts and details such as who Dan has voted for, which is pretty common wolf strat.

[rong]

I guess my main reason for wanting to lynch you is odd behaviour.

For example, the question about how the wolves communicate, that was odd.

Wanting to lynch JV was a bit odd and as a wolf you'd want him out the way, and you pushed for him twice while he wasn't here.

Also there's the getting the dead to see lolzzz thing. It's just dumb stuff I wouldn't expect from you as a villager.

Then their is the bolding of me, which seemed odd and out of nowhere, and you have mensioned me several times, often in a list of your suspects, with no real explanation.

Then, as Benny just put it, the "glossing over of facts" regarding my behavior, and using this misinformation to try and get me lynched.

Now the bolding of Benny, when my main reason for not trusting benny just vanished.

It aint watertight, but it's the best I got.

[rong]

And wtf was going on with my there & their in that post

[GatorJH]

Or basically: I showed you mine, now show me yours

That is the second awesome post you have made in this thread. I Must say you are pretty cool!!!

As for today I have been saying all along that I didn't think Wuf was a wuf and now all of a sudden Gabe mentions it and people are all over it? Definitely need to store that info away.

Gabe you definitely seem wolfish to me. First you try the "lay low" method then once you start posting you have been all over the place in your analysis. This seems more like a wolf trying to sway the village more than a villager.

As for supa he is playing a pretty identical style that I did the last time I was a wolf. I also have no idea what you mean by "switching from wuf to gabe makes no sense because if one is a wolf they both are". Please explain this one to me.

For now I am going to rescind lolzzz and lynch supa as I want to see where this goes and how a few people react to it.

[supa]

I said probably, meaning that they seem to be in the same camp. Putting words in my mouth IMO. Stupid iPad.

[OngBonga]

Well isn't it obivously wuf bikes and gabe now? I'm drunk, so much to take in, definitely string one of these three up whatever you fuckers do.

[TLR]

I agree that Gabe is all over the place but I dont think it neccessarily means he is a wolf, as far as I recall he has done this in previous game in order to generate discussion and info

Gabe is one of those people who are almost always looked up early in the game and if he is a villager it will be a waste to lose him at this point

I am going to stick with my Hoopy lynch for now

[bikes]

lynch benny

if i dont switch my vote off dan gabe will prolly get lynched. hoopy is a poor choice for the reason i gave back in the thread. gabe is a poor choice as gabe is ALWAYS looked up by the seer day 1, and prolly rightfully so, gabe is the king of levels. as for reasons why to switch to benny? i'm pretty sure you have the most atm behind the 2 people who should not be lynched and seeing as how half the village listens to a drunk i'm not going to convince them otherwise. ul

[DropTheBanana]

I'm lost....

So many good players and so hard to weed through the bullshit. I'm going to rescind Gator but everyone should make sure to keep a close eye on him, because when he messes up it's REALLY hard to notice.

How does the wolves eating WBF hold against everyone's theories. He usually is a prime lynch target and it doesn't make a lot of sense as to why he would go on Night 1. The village's discussion just dove right into Bigred and seemed to leave out this bit of info.

[Hoopy]

I'm lost....

How does the wolves eating WBF hold against everyone's theories. He usually is a prime lynch target and it doesn't make a lot of sense as to why he would go on Night 1. The village's discussion just dove right into Bigred and seemed to leave out this bit of info.

I think the wolves ate WBF because he was playing differently, more engaged and had a bit more detail in his posts. Hence they figured him for a special.

think about what gabe just said.

Bigred knows he is going to die, so him defending a wolf wufwugy would be dumb. Whereas conversely, he could bold a wolf because "lol why would the turncoat be bolding wolves".

Good point. Not a wolf though.

Gabe seems more like a villager now.

rescind gabe

[BennyLaRue]

This is terrible timing. I'm going to be gone all day but don't lynch me. There's been absolutely no information presented as to why I should be lynched other than a general wolfy vibe, which I give off every game. A good villager HAS TO look a little wolfy. As soon as you cement your role as a villager, you're going to get nommed by the wolves and now that I've said that I'll have two targets on my back. Thanks.

Don't get me lynched because wufwugy has an ego and is mad and Gabe is probing.

Bigred made multiple mentions about wuf that I still want an explanation for. On one side, some people say that bigred wouldn't do something has bold or stupid as discuss a wolf Day 1. Then on the other hand, a number of people call bigred an idiot.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ls-169959.html

I know bigred to be a guy who tries to entertain himself by weird shit and epic fancy play early is not out of the realm of possibility with the guy.

We have in front of us a very,very wordy and self-reverential defense from wuf that has some off his case. Why? WHAT ELSE WOULD WE EXPECT FROM HIM IN THIS SITUATION?!?! The fact is I don't want to lynch him because of him, I want to lynch him because of bigred. And now consider his vote count got up to 8 and now there is a heavy derail but we still don't know and can't know anything more about bigred's motives.

Anyway, if I die, good luck village. I'll die tilted as all hell.

[BennyLaRue]

Actually, I might be able to get on around 6 or 7 pm, right before the deadline.

[GatorJH]

Once again a vet, who has been silent the entire game, swoops in and says "lynch so and so" then everybody just reacts.

Why are we lynching Benny? He has been one of the few players who has been actively trying to figure things out.

As for the don't lynch gabe or wuf or whoever because they are good players, here's a news flash, just about everybody in this game is good.

Lollz, jv, supa and a couple of others are skating by with minimal posts yet we are targeting the active posters.

So confusing and not sure why none of those lynches get any traction.

[philly and the phanatics]

whats the vote count looking like....i think as of now id rather see wuf gone than benny, even though i just rescinded wuf lol

[gabe]

Bigred made multiple mentions about wuf that I still want an explanation for. On one side, some people say that bigred wouldn't do something has bold or stupid as discuss a wolf Day 1. Then on the other hand, a number of people call bigred an idiot.

OK i didnt consider this so much, but i should. its like how an economist has theories about how everyone rational should act with their money, but then they get proven wrong in reality because it turns out everyone's taking crazy pills (or just regularly succumbing to their emotions)

are there any people who could be lynched that should get us more info about wuf and benny? as a village we've been focused on a enough different stuff in this long day that we might be able to find some inconsistencies, but then again theres only so many hours left before a lynching.

i was very against lynching wuf and now not so much. benny isnt absolved

[supa]

Lollz, jv, supa and a couple of others are skating by with minimal posts yet we are targeting the active posters.

Gator belongs on this list as much/more than I do. People in glass houses...

Srsly, you have postsed less than I have in this thread and really haven't said much of any use.

As for today I'd like to see the wuf lynch play out and see where we go from there. Dunno the count but I'm pretty sure wuf's still leading that race.

The WBF lynch question came up again and I think someone answered that he would have been the person least likely person to look up a wolf, makes sense to me.

[wufwugy]

I've been staring at my computer for like twenty minutes, looking over the thread, deliberating on what to actually do. I'm not convinced on Benny, but I also don't wanna feel like a supreme dickhead and be partly responsible for him dying instead of me if he's a villager, especially since timing is bad for defenses and stuff

I don't wanna do an easy lynch because the main one (hoopy) I think has been made clear to be a villager

But if I do nothing, I will probably die.

[wufwugy]

I meant to say I'm not convinced Benny is legit. Everything he's done seems not genuine to me, but he also could simply just be playing mellow

[Hoopy]

I don't see Benny as a wolf tbh, much rather we lynch wuf and try to gather info from that or JV/supa.

Lollz, jv, supa and a couple of others are skating by with minimal posts yet we are targeting the active posters.

lolz is the medium in case you didn't know.

[a500lbgorilla]

5 votes for wufwugy (Benny, fulsky, OngBonga, supa, Warpe)
3 votes for Benny (Bikes, gabe, JV)
2 votes for Hoopy (Boog, TLR)
2 votes for gabe (DanA, Shotglass)
1 votes for supa (Gator)
1 votes for DanAronG (lolzzz_321)

1 person flirting with death (Ragnar4)

[wufwugy]

lynch gabe

It's either gabe being gabe, or he's a wolf

He made an excellent case for me being a villager, said he believes there is NO CHANCE I'm a wolf, then Benny says something that's hardly convincing at all, then gabe says he's not so convinced I'm a villager anymore

And when he made the excellent case for me being a villager he said he had reread the whole thread and stuff

I think gabe knows I'm gonna die and be shown as a villager, so he wanted to gain cred by being the one who said there was zero chance I'm a wolf. But he could just be being gabe

As you can tell, I'm not cinching the Benny wagon; probably to my own. As to why there are still people on the wuf-wagon, I have no clue. Not only is there not an even remotely reasonable case for me being a wolf, I have clearly made it that I'm very statistically likely to be lynched regardless

At first I was acting weird, then that was shot down due to being wrong

Then bigred was protecting me, then that was shot down for being revisionist history

Then bigred was trying to communicate to me, then that was shot down by bigred having posted nothing in a way he wouldn't if he wasn't trying to communicate to me

What's going on here folks?




But whatever, have at your wuf-hangings. This game is pissing me off. Not the game, actually, but the fact that lolz says he's the medium and that he talked to bigred WHO KNOWS WHO ALL THE WOLVES ARE YET HE DIDN'T TELL HIM AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT HE DID TELL HIM AND BIGRED IS EVEN CONSIDERED DEAD IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE MEDIUM SHOULDNT HAVE EVEN BEEN ALLOWED TO TALK TO HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE

I keep asking for clarity on this garbage, but not getting it. I mean jesus christ, if we actually had clarity on what the roles are then we might actually be able to know my role because lolz did say that br said I was a villager and gabe was a wolf. Perhaps the rules of when lolz talked to br was that br could only tell him one wolf and one villager and not lie, or he could tell him whatever he wanted, or god knows what. NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHAT THE TURNCOAT ROLE IS; IF ITS A VILLAGER OR A WOLF OR WHATEVER THE FUCK

So yeah, just kill me now, so I don't have to keep wringing my head over this stupid medium talked to the turncoat trash that should have been the most important topic of the weekend, yet nobody wanted to talk about it, and every time I try to talk about it it just gets shot down as already super mega uber clear

[a500lbgorilla]

The game will initially have 1 Turncoat

The turncoat knows his own role and the roles of each of the werewolves. The turncoat is considered a villager (as in he counts towards the village total). The turncoat's winning condition is the same as the werewolves, that the number of werewolves equals or exceeds the number of villagers. The turncoat can not communicate privately with the wolves.

How is the above not clear to you, wufwugy et al?

[a500lbgorilla]

The game will initially have 1 Medium

The medium knows only his own role. The medium is considered a villager. The medium's winning condition is the same as the village, the death of all the werewolves. The medium hears the words of the dead. The medium may attempt to contact one dead person each night. They will make their request to the game moderator who will contact the dead player for a response (to the moderator). If the dead player does not respond in a timely fashion, his words are lost. If a response is given, the moderator will relay it to the medium. "Timely fashion" does not mean before day break.

Also, how is the above unclear?

[wufwugy]

How is the above not clear to you, wufwugy et al?

This doesn't jive with him being Dead and communicating with the Medium

We're all playing this game assuming that the Dead gets to seer somebody (at a percentage), but bigred wouldn't need to because he already knows all the wolves. And we're all assuming that a medium contacted dead tells what he knows, but clearly that didn't happen because he didn't tell our presumed-lolz-medium all three wolves; which shouldnt be allowed in the first place, and is why I assumed bigred would not be counted among the Dead roles

So then I'm thinking maybe there were rules in place with how bigred was to communicate with the medium, so as to provide the value the roles are meant to. But then I'm thinking what is the turncoats role after he dies even? Are his allegiances to the village or to the wolves? We don't know

I'm so baffled at the whole thing that I'm wanting to lynch lolz for the sole reason that he pops in and says the Dead told him I was a villager, and then he just shuts up and doesn't play the game as if what happens has any meaning

[a500lbgorilla]

This doesn't jive with him being Dead and communicating with the Medium

We're all playing this game assuming that the Dead gets to seer somebody (at a percentage), but bigred wouldn't need to because he already knows all the wolves. And we're all assuming that a medium contacted dead tells what he knows, but clearly that didn't happen because he didn't tell our presumed-lolz-medium all three wolves; which shouldnt be allowed in the first place, and is why I assumed bigred would not be counted among the Dead roles

So then I'm thinking maybe there were rules in place with how bigred was to communicate with the medium, so as to provide the value the roles are meant to. But then I'm thinking what is the turncoats role after he dies even? Are his allegiances to the village or to the wolves? We don't know

I'm so baffled at the whole thing that I'm wanting to lynch lolz for the sole reason that he pops in and says the Dead told him I was a villager, and then he just shuts up and doesn't play the game as if what happens has any meaning

All the clarity you need is in the above quotes. Feel free to pm me after you're dead and I'll explain it to you.

[wufwugy]

Also, how is the above unclear?

Because the turncoat already knows who the wolves are

What are his allegiances when he is Dead, can he be trusted, not trusted, wtf? If not trusted then why was he even a medium communicable option in the first place?

[a500lbgorilla]

Because the turncoat already knows who the wolves are

What are his allegiances when he is Dead, can he be trusted, not trusted, wtf? If not trusted then why was he even a medium communicable option in the first place?

The Turncoat's winning condition remains, dead or alive. Just as the Medium's winning condition remains, dead or alive. He's considered a dead Turncoat.

[wufwugy]

So there is zero purpose behind letting the medium talk to the turncoat

Awesome

[Shotglass]

Wuf lynching Gabe,

I know that I haven't played that many games but I seem to recall reading somewhere that one of wuf's main strategies is to lynch a wolf to secure himself immunity.

Right now I don't care much which one gets lynched, Gabe or Wuf, but if either one turns out to be a wolf then the other should be a quick lynch the next day.

[gabe]

lolz did say that br said I was a villager and gabe was a wolf

BR DID NOT SAY YOU WERE A VILLAGER. lolzzz mentioned it in the same run on sentence but he did not say BR said u were a villager. that was lolzzz's opinion

BR DID NOT SAY I WAS A WOLF. hes on the wolf team, their victory is his victory. he knows all the wolves. he was communicating that I was a special role so the wolves could kill me.

does it all make sense now? i was hoping this would click with some of you before i had to explain it. its important for me to convince you i'm not a wolf. im a special role. if i was an angel i would not out myself, because then there would be no one to protect me.

regardless of who we lynch, i'm going to shoot benny tonight. this will confirm me as a vig and i hope the angel helps me. this also should confirm that wuf is not in wolf-cahoots with me, and if he turns out to be one it will just mean i made a bad read.

[supa]

I think this discussion never happened coz it never needed to. It's obv that lolz fucked up by not paying attn to what's going on in the game and thought br died as a villager. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up that our medium doesn't care enough about the game to get the facts straight but wtf are we gonna do, lynch him?

Sorry you're pissed bro but someone has to die and there's been enough discussion going on this weekend that better players than I will have good amounts of info to go off of in later days if the vote stays with you.

Personally I don't have a clue what's going on, except that there is more than 1 player that's either not paying attn or is intentionally confusing the village with rhetoric. If your lynch holds up, and you're not a wolf, you have a better chance than anyone to look one up.

[supa]

^ by this discussion I meant the lolz talking to br thing obv.

[gabe]

in case it wasn't clear to any of you i am the vigilante

if benny doesnt get lynched i'm going to shoot him. if im not the vigilante and he/she is really out there somewhere, DONT SHOOT BENNY so that way everyone knows im a lying wolf.


the village has a good path to victory and it involves going off lolzzz's list. its VERY lame this made its way into the game but since the wolves are surely using it, so should we.

dana/benny/onga all need to die. lets lynch one and ill shoot whichever. holla at me angel

[Shotglass]

regardless of who we lynch, i'm going to shoot benny tonight. this will confirm me as a vig and i hope the angel helps me. this also should confirm that wuf is not in wolf-cahoots with me, and if he turns out to be one it will just mean i made a bad read.

Ok

rescind Gabe
Lynch Bikes

[gabe]

any of you wolves want to poke some holes in that???? death to the werewolves!

[supa]

I don't know about the wolves but did you srsly just ask the angel to come out?

[bikes]

christ i dont see how u guys couldn't see that gabe was clearly not a wolf and he shouldnt have needed to out himself this early.

since gabe is shooting him

rescind benny
lynch dana

[bikes]

no he didn't ask for the angel to come out he asked for protection obv.

[supa]

Yeah obv don't lynch benny. If Gabe isn't the vig, then obv don't come out and just shoot Gabe.

[supa]

no he didn't ask for the angel to come out he asked for protection obv.

Would have rather heard this from Gabe.

[DropTheBanana]

I can't get over the fact that I KNOW wuf likes to pre-meditate some sick levels. I remember in the wolves den one game he would spend an entire day rough drafting plans of levels on levels until he had epic evil schemes.

Same way with Philly. They're both so methodical with there posts it's hard to decipher what level they're on. They're drawing boards when wolves for which direction to go are quite phenomenal actually.

Wuf can be a lot more dangerous though when he gets on a roll and will throw so much smoke and mind fuck the village into confusion.

If he is a villager he can tend to have self-indulged motives that leave the village in the dark at times.


Lynch Wufwugy More so as a strategy lynch than an information based lynch

[gabe]

supa i already said " if i was an angel i would not out myself, because then there would be no one to protect me" which should apply to whoever is playing the angel in this part of the game

[wufwugy]

I can't get over the fact that I KNOW wuf likes to pre-meditate some sick levels. I remember in the wolves den one game he would spend an entire day rough drafting plans of levels on levels until he had epic evil schemes.

Same way with Philly. They're both so methodical with there posts it's hard to decipher what level they're on. They're drawing boards when wolves for which direction to go are quite phenomenal actually.

Wuf can be a lot more dangerous though when he gets on a roll and will throw so much smoke and mind fuck the village into confusion.

If he is a villager he can tend to have self-indulged motives that leave the village in the dark at times.


Lynch Wufwugy More so as a strategy lynch than an information based lynch

You should also know there are two reasons why that is a far cry

1. I did not play like this when I was a wolf. I came up with a lot of stuff, but didn't actually do any of it. In fact, our plan became the most normal and strategically sound plan there was

2. Remember when I said was feeling like shit and didn't even wanna put much effort into playing and that you guys should have just railroaded me? Then a500lbitch said Tropic Thunder - Lincoln Osiris - "Survive!" - YouTube and I realized that it would be incredibly sucky and lame for me to not try to do what's best for the wolves? And I did, I buckled up and headed shit off at the pass


Well, I have clearly not played like that this time. I am clearly a villager, and the fact that my wagon even got to 8 votes on Day 2 should be baffling to anybody. There is no way that a non-seer backed wagon of mine would take off like that this early if I was playing for the wolves. No chance and you know it

[wufwugy]

gabe is a wolf btw

he's pretending to be vig so they can nom lolz. This is exactly the kind of thing he has tried to do before. He says he's gonna shoot Benny because then nobody will lynch Benny and that makes the wuf wagon even much more further ahead than any others


Here's what we have to do IMO

Can't lynch dana because it's just too late in the day. He is somebody who deserves a defense/synopsis post before he dies

You guys know I'm a villager, it's just my wagon is full of people who are not paying attention who want me dead. Look at my wagon. Look at who's on that. Bongie is stuck on his uber soulread like we all did when we were newb players, fulksy never does anything, supa says he sucks and doesn't know what he's doing, Warpe clearly is not paying attention this game, Benny is an excellent candidate for suspicion, then DTB shows up hopping on my wagon out of the blue, curiously after gabe decided to come out as that likely fake vig

rescind gabe lynch fulksy

Don't lynch me, I'm actually doing shit, and we're gonna get all the info we need after the night plays out. I am clearly being railroaded here, and it's honestly partly my own fault. I decided to just do nothing about my wagon until it got huge and people who don't pay attention were all over it etc.

Anyways, fulksy played exactly like this as a wolf, he is not of value to the village the way I am, and I think enough people are convinced I'm not a wolf that I shouldn't be lynched. But I will get lynched if there isn't a different wagon to compete. Besides, fulksy won't even know if he died until like two days from now. There's a reason why when he was the final wolf, the last night took nearly a week.

[Hoopy]

following gabe

lynch DanA

[wufwugy]

BR DID NOT SAY YOU WERE A VILLAGER. lolzzz mentioned it in the same run on sentence but he did not say BR said u were a villager. that was lolzzz's opinion

BR DID NOT SAY I WAS A WOLF. hes on the wolf team, their victory is his victory. he knows all the wolves. he was communicating that I was a special role so the wolves could kill me

Nope, your posts are gabisms or wolf.

dead bigred said gabe is not a villager, wuf certainly is, hoopy bandwagon derailment is odd fwiw

You have been all over the place, some of which I honestly chalk up to you just being you, but you should know better than to think that the angel should not choose to protect you over lolz. And you should know that your fake outing didn't work last time, and it won't work this time. Last time you did it with around 5-6 hours left in the day, and it would have worked if Keith hadn't woken up early. This time you're banking on getting me killed, possibly getting the real vig to out because you're gonna try to nom lolz tonight

[gabe]

im still thinking its likely lolzzz is the medium, and if the wolves dont kill him it will be very suspicious.

[wufwugy]

Dudes, don't lynch Dan. The timing is terrible, and I would rather you lynch me than lynch him. He doesn't deserve to be lynched at a time when he would not be able to defend himself or give his analysis before he dies.

Gabe is a fucking wolf. This is a fake out. I explained so many reasons this is true, and on top of that, when I die y'all will see BR didn't lie about me being a villager, then maybe you'll think he didn't lie about Gabe being a wolf. I'm still very unconvinced on anything about why BR was even labeled as Dead at any point, but whatever

[wufwugy]

My wolf list is

gabe, benny, dtb

Makes the most sense so far

And I saw earlier but didnt post that I'm pullling back on Dan and Benny both as wolves. Dan accused beeny of not being a leader then beeny responded in such a way that most others would gloss over it, and I dont think they would do that if they were both wolves

so yeah, gabe beeny dtb

mb gabe dana dtb

[Hoopy]

right after wufs last few posts I have no idea what to do/think.

rescind DanA