10NL - JJ when ugly turn hits

[Nekrogovner]

Implied odds?

I agree that these hands won't be folded. So why not charge them? Why give them a price that with implied odds, it's correct to call.

Such as? There are very few raising hands that the villain can credibly represent. And a small flop bet is more likely to be raised than a large one.

There are many, I can represent any flush draw, flush draw with T or 9 in it, sets, stupidly played AA-JJ.

And noes...I wouldn't charge them with easily dominated hand on worst flop ever with the worst turn ever.

[Duffryn]

There are many, I can represent any flush draw, flush draw with T or 9 in it, sets, stupidly played AA-JJ.

And noes...I wouldn't charge them with easily dominated hand on worst flop ever with the worst turn ever.

On the flop, JJ is ahead of most flush draws and flipping with nearly all the rest. Its unlikely that a 19/13 villain limp/called UTG with the hands that make the better flush draws, like AhKh. Similarly, QQ+ is very unlikely to be in his range and probably not 99-JJ. The only hands you fear him representing are 22, T9o, T9s, QhJh, with maybe a little worry about 99, TT, slight concern about QQ-AA and not being that keen on AhKh, AhQh and KhQh.

That is a good flop for Jacks. 269 rainbow would be better, but AhTh9h would be a lot worse.

Kh (along with 8h) is the worst turn I agree. I am going to stop participating in derailing the thread, because the original question was what to do on that turn. My answer to that is I don't really know. Too tough for me.