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  1. 04-22-2011 09:41 AM #1
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    pretty sure he has a set approximately never here. I'd call and shrug if he has a flush.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
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  2. 04-22-2011 09:51 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    pretty sure he has a set approximately never here.
    How come?
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  3. 04-22-2011 11:54 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPoker View Post
    How come?
    Someone playing loose/passive isn't going to shove unless he thinks he has the nuts or near to it. Just because he's running 50/3 doesn't mean he's stupid enough to shove here without the flush or straight flush. With his PF stats I wouldn't be surprised to see AX or even 53

    Also, you cant assume that a loose passive will shove all in with a draw or weak overpair. They will call with less than nut hands. The flop shove range is completely different to the preflop limp call range.
    Scott, It looks like you answered your own question. Try to figure out what range that you really believe he'd shove with in this spot. Once you do that I think you'll see that it's a fold and not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    Someone playing loose/passive isn't going to shove unless he thinks he has the nuts or near to it. Just because he's running 50/3 doesn't mean he's stupid enough to shove here without the flush or straight flush. With his PF stats I wouldn't be surprised to see AX or even 53.
    DC, was this your reasoning?
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  5. 04-22-2011 12:24 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    Someone playing loose/passive isn't going to shove unless he thinks he has the nuts or near to it. Just because he's running 50/3 doesn't mean he's stupid enough to shove here without the flush or straight flush. With his PF stats I wouldn't be surprised to see AX or even 53



    Scott, It looks like you answered your own question. Try to figure out what range that you really believe he'd shove with in this spot. Once you do that I think you'll see that it's a fold and not even close.
    we need over 37.7% equity vs his range for the call if the wine i've consumed hasn't disabled my basic math abilities. Against a range of overpairs, sets, every possible flush combination (don't these guys play any two soooted?) and pair+As, pair+Ks, we still only have 37.1%. Are there more likely hands we can put into opp's range that can tilt this to a call? Or can we remove stuff like 73s?
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