ncaa tournament bracket

[philly and the phanatics]

i know im like a week early but too bad, i'm going to put on an NCAA bracket on yahoo.

Scoring will be pretty simple, correctly picking first round games are 1 pt, second are 2, sweet 16 are 4, elite 8 are 8, final 4 are 16, and correctly guess the champion and you will get 32 points.

Also there is an upset bonus, for every upset you successfully call you get the difference between the seeds as well as the points for that round. For example lets say you call a 12 over 5 upset in the first round successfully. That would net you 8 total points, 7 for the upset (12-5) and 1 for the 1st round victory.


You must ship to me first if you want to join in, PM me and i will tell you what name to ship to (stars preferred then absolute and if you really do not have anything else i can do FTP). I would like to think i've got enough street cred on FTR to be able to escrow this sort of thing, if not we can all decide on one together.

Maximum of 5 entries per person.

we can all decide on a price but i was thinking 15$.

The bracket doesnt come out until this sunday, you will then have until the wednesday afterwards to get them filled out.

I am doing this on yahoo so we will have a page where everyone has their picks locked in so there is no cheating.

Payout structure depends on the number of entrants but i am definitely pushing for a top heavy payout.

[philly and the phanatics]

i'm open to doing a different scoring as well just figured that was a good place to start and was within yahoo's capabilities....

[badandy519]

I kinda like the bonus points for the upsets, but just off the top of my head I think one point for the seed difference with the first round games starting at 2 points sounds a little more fair. I don't have excel here at home and i'm too lazy to dl open office, but I can crunch some diff point scenarios at work this week and see how it works out.

If you want the 12 over 5 to be worth the same as getting a sweet 16 winner right, then yours works. But imo it gives too much credit for picking first round upsets, which aren't always that hard to figure out. Also, if you're going to allow 5 brackets, i think $10 works better, but $15 is fine too.

[kmind]

I have VCU winning it all. Wait FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

[philly and the phanatics]

I have VCU winning it all. Wait FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

lol my dad went to ODU so he was pretty amped....also ty for that tourny clinching victory on sunday night

[philly and the phanatics]

and badandy i am down to see what everyone wants to do as far as scoring, i just think there shoudl be some reward for picking the upset....and also in this 1 if you pick a 4 to get to the elite 8 you would get 12 points, obviously more than a 5/12 upset....but either way i am open to suggestion

[lolzzz_321]

I'm down. Don't really like the upset thing.

[kmind]

I'm down by the way. I'm cheap and will most likely only have 1 bracket so I don't care about the price.

And I dislike your father, philly. I'm sorry.

[lolzzz_321]

Ok, I really dislike the upset thing and it will prevent me from playing if we use that.

[bode]

Ok, I really dislike the upset thing and it will prevent me from playing if we use that.

same here. maybe like 1 extra point for an upset or something would be ok.

also, does 32pts for picking the winner of the championship game seem like too much? iirc it seems like final 4 games and the championship game get the same amount of points in most pools.

[philly and the phanatics]

not any that i have played, but if we are not goign to do the upset scoring i say we do the fibonacci scoring or w/e w/ 2-3-5-8-13-21 as the score by round....this way the championship game is only worth 10.5x a first round game instead of 32x a first round call.

[kmind]

I HAVE VCU WINNING IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[a500lbgorilla]

VCPoo

[bigspenda73]

A&M screwed, a 7 seed plus playing ND in Chicago in the 2nd round?

Thanks asshole tournament committee

[philly and the phanatics]

if they get passed the noles that is.....jk we suck

so who all is in? ship to me on stars reddragon941 (no i dont really love that movie, it was one of the worst of the series, i am welsh).

GROUP ID# 25567 is the group id on yahoo....the name is FLOPTURNRIVER DEATH BATTLE

After you ship me the money i will pm you the pw.....10 dollars per entry sounds about right.

We can tweak scoring through the week but i still think doing the Fibonacci is going to be best if nobody wants to reward upsets. They do not have that option on yahoo so we would just completely ignore that and i would do it by hand and post scores in here nightly.

[lolzzz_321]

can anyone give me like 50 on stars for 50 on ftp?

[bode]

isn't the consensus these days that its much better/safer to escrow money on FTP? i thought there was some limit or approval process through stars? idk, maybe its just larger transfers.

[philly and the phanatics]

idk i dont care if we use FTP, thats fine w/ me, you can just ship on whatever. Same SN for FTP.

[Roco415]

You know who's shipping it this year finally right?


Hint:

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[Roco415]

hey philly just shipped..

[a500lbgorilla]

As far as cities are concerned, any random ant hill >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pittsburgh. I can only assume this means that any collection of people capable of playing the game of basketball >>>>>>>>>>> Pitt.

[Roco415]

hahaha I'm actually from Philadelphia so i take no offense and somewhat agree with you on most points..I just go to Pitt now so im trapped in steeler nation, kinda brutal to say the least

[a500lbgorilla]

Yeah, ever since they lost the superbowl and Crosbitch was concussed that city is basically a hole. The illadelph is where it's at.

[philly and the phanatics]

so far Lolz+ friend are confirmed for 4 entires, and roco is confirmed for an entry, im going to do at least 2 maybe 3.

[philly and the phanatics]

bad andy also just shipped and i pm'ed him the password

im also always on irc in #ftr if you need to get ahold of me for any reason...

what about for scoring? fibonacci ok with everyone cause unless someone speaks up thats what im gonna roll w/ and just score them by hand and ignore the yahoo scoring, we could even tweak it so its like 2 3 6 9 14 21 ...idk

[badandy519]

In - i'm used to the 1,2,3,5,7,10 from my big pool back home. Not really against the 2 3 6 9 14 21 that much... BUT if we're discussing, the 2 for 1st round vs 3 for 2nd still rewards more for early round picks. If that's what you're going for, then it's fine. I just think the points should be worth progressively more each round, not take a step back from one round to the next like the one you have up.

edit: not progressively MORE... just not less than the previous round on a per game basis.

[badandy519]

And now that i actually think about it - the scoring i'm used to does the same damn thing, just between rounds 2 & 3 instead of 1 & 2.

The point i'm trying to make is about picking the one and dones - that's the reason i think the 2nd round needs to be on an equal points per game basis as round 1. If not, then there's no reason to not pick a bunch of random upsets outside the 1 - 4 seeds and hope you bat better than .333.

[philly and the phanatics]

if the first round was so important but you got the same for a victory no matter what, why would you pick a bunch of upsets, it would make more sense to follow vegas and or the seeding, as the team who is seeded higher is more likely to win.

[philly and the phanatics]

still waiting on Kmind and Bode to ship funds...its tuesday so only got until thursday morning Est.

Come on rilla/spenda/others play brackets with us

[bigspenda73]

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[philly and the phanatics]

lol are you not going to participate ?

[kmind]

Blahhhh I'm actually going to have to pass now, philly. Sorry . So lame.

[bigspenda73]

not participating, sorry

[bode]

sorry guys i'm out. i'm in 3 others already and kind of forgot about this one. for the record, 2-4-6-8-10-15 or 2-4-6-8-12-16 is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1-2-4-8-16-32.

[philly and the phanatics]

sigh....well rocco/badandy/Trip...i am game to still go forward with the small pool we have, or if you guys want i can ship funds back.....let me know by the end of the day cause the tourny starts tomorrow

[Roco415]

wtf everyone...

[philly and the phanatics]

well im not off to the hottest of starts rofl

[lolzzz_321]

morehead st wat

[Roco415]

wait why are there bonus pts? i thought we werent doing that. lame. and Pitt is 5 wins away from being national champions...

[philly and the phanatics]

we are not doing that do not worry, yahoo didnt have the kind of scoring we are gonna use (2 3 6 9 14 21) so i will do it by hand after

[philly and the phanatics]

also MWAHAHAH @ spenda ....noooles niiggaaa

[Roco415]

we are not doing that do not worry, yahoo didnt have the kind of scoring we are gonna use (2 3 6 9 14 21) so i will do it by hand after

sounds good...so pissed nova lost..annoying.

[Monty3038]

Alright, the tourney is partially taking place about an hour from me. I don't watch basketball and know nothing about it, but they are having it in cleveland, which first off, is a mistake but that is ok... But they also are not selling beer at any of the games... what the hell?

[philly and the phanatics]

ok so round 1 victories are worth 2

so here are the standings through round 1-
Obamanation- 52
CoachKKK- 48
Me and Rocco are tied at 44
Jimmermadness and Nignognignogymos are tied at 40
and both of badandys brackets are in last with 38

[lolzzz_321]

KU is gonna get rolled by Illinois

[Roco415]

Alright, the tourney is partially taking place about an hour from me. I don't watch basketball and know nothing about it, but they are having it in cleveland, which first off, is a mistake but that is ok... But they also are not selling beer at any of the games... what the hell?

if im not mistaken i think that the ncaa refuses to allow the sale of alcohol at most college games...i think theirs a couple that do but its extremely rare...

[Roco415]

ok so round 1 victories are worth 2

so here are the standings through round 1-
Obamanation- 52
CoachKKK- 48
Me and Rocco are tied at 44
Jimmermadness and Nignognignogymos are tied at 40
and both of badandys brackets are in last with 38

so whats the official point system? 1st round is 2....then how is it set up? I have kentucky in my FF so that was a huge win...

[philly and the phanatics]

2 3 6 9 14 21- is the points by round.

I have kentucky in the FF in another bracket so it was def a huge win.

[philly and the phanatics]

Scoring for this round-
Obama- 18
BadAndy1- 24
Jimmer- 30
Me- 24
Badandy2- 18
nignog- 21
roco- 21
coach k- 24

Scoring totals-
Coach K- 72
Obamanation- 70
Jimmer- 70
Me- 68
Roco- 65
Badandy1- 62
Nignog-61
Badandy2- 56

[philly and the phanatics]

Scoring totals-
Coach K- 96
Jimmer- 94
Roco- 89
Badandy1- 86
Nignog-85
Obamanation- 82
Badandy2- 80
Me- 80

Scores this round-
Badandy1- 24
Jimmer- 24
Roco- 24
Badandy2- 24
Obamanation- 12
NigNog-24
Coach KKK- 24
Me- 12


hahah nobody had more than 4 right.

[Roco415]

Score updates?

I think only me and philly had kentucky in f.f. right?

[philly and the phanatics]

i idndt even have it ...i had uconn though...ill post updates now.

[philly and the phanatics]

Scoring totals-
Coach K- 96
Jimmer- 94
Roco- 89
Badandy1- 86
Nignog-85
Obamanation- 82
Badandy2- 80
Me- 80

Ok this round-
Badandy- 9
rocco- 9
Jimmer-0
Me- 9
badandy2- 0
Obamna-0
Coack K-0
Nignog-0

Totals-
Rocco-98
Coach K- 96
Badandy1- 95
Jimmer- 94


OK so this thing is a rap(wrap?)...Congrats to Rocco, nobody has anoyone in the finals left so its impossible for the point total to change from here out.

I will ship your 80 bucks right meow....congratulations sir.

[Roco415]

Moniez received..thank you. Bittersweet because pitt blew it yet again this year...still convinced were one of top 4 teams in the nation....

[lolzzz_321]

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[kmind]

I'm sorry but I cannot believe what is happening. Looks like I would have done well if I played. I'm in total shock.

Jon - thanks a ton for offering your tix at a great price and wish I could have gone. You guys would beat us 9/10 times and I truly believe you are/were the best team in the whole field.