FTR, Please help me become a wining 2NL player

[John Doe]

Well, just a small in between answer. Obviously I want more than just win at 2NL. I want to inprove my game. But As I pointed out allready, funny thing of pokertracker is you can see other people do it and also how they do it. Like "72oEnough" I have like 1200 hands on him and he has a verry nice 45 degfrees upgoing graph. He`s not really posiotional aware has vpip of 10 and pfr of 4 so he`s just verry tag / fitfoldish and that works. Well this is "just" a matter of adjusting your game to your opponents as it just assumes the other ones are going to make mistakes, as they will at 2NL. It really shows that nutcamping does it in this level. But I`m sure there`s better winrates possible.
Doing all this study allready starting to give me trust again. Also thinking about all this lets me realize that with renton`s article I pretty much was there but, when I start with a bluff and it works I get results oriented, knowing what my equity is when bluffing will help me not to start bluffing all my hands. (a c betting of 100% is not strange to me). I hope spoonit exercises will help me !!


Ranges and putting them on something is wat I started learning. Speaking of this, has no one a comment at the strange thing in pokerstove especially in comparison to the line spoonitnow suggests ??

Another strange thing in pokerstove. At 6% AQo still isn`t in it but it does give ATs, which spoonitnow places for open raisingon MP2.
Are these cards really better than AQo ?? So I matched them in pokerstove and it gives 69.368% equity for the AQo Anny comments ??

Posting my tracker stats doesn`t do really much I think, as I`m really changing my game regulary to learn what certain changes will do for me. I might do this in the future as my new (spoonitnow`s) game develops.

Thnx for all input
Greetings
Tha learning fish.

Editted cause wrighting all this really gets me thinking.
I`m learning lots

[daviddem]

Speaking of this, has no one a comment at the strange thing in pokerstove especially in comparison to the line spoonitnow suggests ??

From the pokerstove FAQ, Q12:

Q12. How does the PokerStove slider rank preflop hands?

The slider interface for setting the top N% of hands orders the hands according to their preflop all-in equity versus three random hands. This rather arbitrary selection was picked because it balances the value of high cards with the value of drawing cards. It is not an absolute ordering, and depending on the specific situation you may want to edit that range of hands when doing equity calculations.

[Keith]

heres a free set of videos that will help you to stop losing at 2nl.

101 series full ring

Basically they are showing you what everyone else is saying about playing tight and are designed to stop you losing , not to crush 2nl. Watch the lectures and its explained why you are doing things and why you should avoid doing some things.

Get the basics right and then you can start adding concepts to up your winrate. Forget about a lot of the strategies talked about in the higher stakes .They are designed to beat higher stakes where players actually realise they have a fold button. At 2nl most players don't realise that you can raise more than just pressing the raise button and don't realise that the time they flopped a full house with 72o was an extreme rarity and that all the time they are limping in with such crap they are spewing money.

[Razvan729]

Well, just a small in between answer. Obviously I want more than just win at 2NL. I want to inprove my game. But As I pointed out allready, funny thing of pokertracker is you can see other people do it and also how they do it. Like "72oEnough" I have like 1200 hands on him and he has a verry nice 45 degfrees upgoing graph. He`s not really posiotional aware has vpip of 10 and pfr of 4 so he`s just verry tag / fitfoldish and that works. Well this is "just" a matter of adjusting your game to your opponents as it just assumes the other ones are going to make mistakes, as they will at 2NL. It really shows that nutcamping does it in this level. But I`m sure there`s better winrates possible.

dont copy other people from PT3 and dont think he is a winning 2nl if you have 1,2k hands on him.

i played this guy a lot, have 5k 2nl on him, 4k on 5nl and 1k at 10nl and he is a losing player. he cant assign ranges, cant read board texture, cand recognize a set from betting from betting line, he is only: "wow! TPTK, AI flop or turn!", this is the kind of player he is. and that is not a poker player!

better do this way: post hands here and listen to people advice, learn and study and play as much as you can , learn to assign ranges,learn to calculate your pot odds ,learn to read and use the HUD, learn to fold AA psot flop when you should to, learn to read a betting line, and like all said here: play 2nl ABC poker .

[StarGrinder]

You will not beat 2nl by opening suited connectors, gappers, belly busters, etc. You will rarely flop well enough to show a big profit because 2nl villains don't have a fold button. Raise your big hands, isolate with broadways, set hunt, value bet, profit. Don't steal with 97o from the CO because you suck postflop and villains don't fold. Play 12/10 nit-tag ABC poker and you will beat the game for 5ptbb/100 over a decent sample. Learn to walk before you run.

[Sasquach991]

.... Play 12/10 nit-tag ABC poker and you will beat the game for 5ptbb/100 over a decent sample. Learn to walk before you run.

I'm still walking cause I still play 12/10 nit tag ABC poker for the most part.

[StarGrinder]

I'm still walking cause I still play 12/10 nit tag ABC poker for the most part.

If you're not playing at a table where you have solid reads on everyone that they have a fold button installed, is there really a reason not to?