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  1. #1
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    Thanx Davidem

    Now back to the exercises before I finaly get to play some hours
    In exercise #3 I`m NOT really vulnerable but that is because I`ve chosen not to bluf much because i have bad experience with that and because it`s not what been advised in this thread ..
    I have read through exercises 4 and 5 and it`s verry sophiticated at the end of 5. Wanted to ask if it`s really +ev to change your play depending on some stats in the micro`s because a 10/5 could be raising only with the 5% worst hands (theoreticly) as they r soo bad sometimes. And because most people here advise simple no brainer honest abc wtf ever poker for the micro`s.

    At the end of exercise #5 I suddenly figure`d this REALLY makes deciscions as it`s all about adjusting to you`re apponent. Knowing this, and by chosing how to play your entire range to exploit his play is all information that makes it somehow easier to accept the cards that dealtyou`re not longer waiting for good cards. more for good situations and that is card/ opponent/ pot/ size/ position etc depending.

    knowing that can make it easier to see when to play what cards.

    A Question to spoontinow
    Is a 500 hands sample sufficient to make these kind of decisions ?? And does this kind of dicision making really make your game a lot more profitable at he lowest limits. As 20 % vpip isn`t always the same 20% of cards.

    in the mean time exercise #4

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by _cbet more, maybe open up preflop, slowplay more with stong hands.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by _bet more on the flop with monsters, float more, or just cbet more for two streets ??.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by _open up preflop, slowplay big hands more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __raise good hands, check fold weak hands, check more and raise less air.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by _value bet more_ more and _bluf less__ less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by _three bet more, open up a little(less than him).
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by _open up more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by _three bet more, check more.

    Now and tomorrow morning I`m gonna do some tight shit. Spoon, I`m really curios to your answer.
    When becomes it profitable to play differently then clean abc poker in the micro`s, as playing thight abc acutally allready is adjusting to your apponents.

    Manny thnx in advance
    Last edited by John Doe; 02-09-2011 at 02:28 PM.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    I have read through exercises 4 and 5 and it`s verry sophiticated at the end of 5. Wanted to ask if it`s really +ev to change your play depending on some stats in the micro`s because a 10/5 could be raising only with the 5% worst hands (theoreticly) as they r soo bad sometimes. And because most people here advise simple no brainer honest abc wtf ever poker for the micro`s.
    If you think that a 10/5 is going to be raising his worst 5% of hands at 2nl ,forget about playing poker because you aren't learning anything.

    At the end of exercise #5 I suddenly figure`d this REALLY makes deciscions as it`s all about adjusting to you`re apponent. Knowing this, and by chosing how to play your entire range to exploit his play is all information that makes it somehow easier to accept the cards that dealtyou`re not longer waiting for good cards. more for good situations and that is card/ opponent/ pot/ size/ position etc depending.

    knowing that can make it easier to see when to play what cards.
    Again I can see this being applied wrongly.Whilst its true that you adapt to your opponents , build a solid basic game first and then once you have that working , have improved at hand reading , have a better post flop game and are profitable THEN start to adapt by widening your ranges to adapt to your opponents.

    If you don't have a solid basis to work from and suddenly think .oooo i can adapt and play marginal hands you are goingto spew so much money and think that the advice you have been given is wrong and that poker is rigged.

    Get a profitable baseline to your game , then adapt your game to gain post flop experience then adapt to your opponents etc and as you get used to all the changes that you make slowly you'll know why you are doing what you are doing. If you try and do too mucha t once ,you'll make massive mistakes.

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