When to fold AA, preflop?

01-12-2011 07:46 PM #1
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 8,697 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	villain turns cards face up, shows AA, rake cost isn't compensated for by the dead money zzzzzzzzzzzz
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01-12-2011 08:04 PM #2
manfredi View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 86	Originally Posted by daven villain turns cards face up, shows AA, rake cost isn't compensated for by the dead money zzzzzzzzzzzz LOL, yes this is what I am considering. Suppose you are IP against a villian whom you know only plays AA. He either folds pre or pushes all in with AA. Every hand. If he pushes, your AA becomes an easy fold. If you call, you both have an equal chance of winning via flush by the river or you chop the pot for a loss. Since the flushes cancel out, calling the shove is -EV, assuming the blinds don't pay the rake (or money that you hope will become dead money) and I guess also assuming his stack is big enough to make the pot rakeable. What I was hoping to learn is the math relating to how to factor the rake into pre-flop equity calculations. This isn't a parade, it's a serious question that I'm trying to learn the answer to. Are there any other situations such as family pots with shortstacks in which folding AA is the best option?

01-12-2011 08:15 PM #3
celtic123 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Jun 2008 Posts 1,117 Location UK	Originally Posted by manfredi . Are there any other situations such as family pots with shortstacks in which folding AA is the best option? Earthquakes and tsunami season are also +EV times to Fold AA pre . Spoon will know how to factor that in.