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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I probably 4bet this pre and fold to a shove. I can fold if he flats the 4bet and then pots/shoves the flop, though it gets tricky if he checks over. Dunno, I don't think I play QQ very well, so perhaps I'll keep an eye on what people have to say.
    He can fold the bottom of his 3 bet range to a 4 bet and continue with the top end. This leaves us in pretty rough shape against his continuing range. If his 3bet PF stat and PFR were higher a 4bet would make sense, since we'd still be over 50% vs his 4bet calling range. Flatting makes even more sense if we think we can make good decisions post flop when stuff like this happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Just a question on tracker or hold 'em manager... the pf stats aren't "merged" are they? That is, if you've got, say 100 hands on Dave1967 at 6max and 200 hands at FR, will the tracker stats shown only relate to the table format? Also, how does it work if you're playing 6 handed at a full ring table?
    Theres options on the hud to only show stats for a given player range. ie. you can set it to show stats for 7-9 players, 3-6 players and HU. It will filter the stats, and only show those relevant to the current number of players at the table.

    Or you can just stick to one, I only play 6 max. My win rate suffers switching back and forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrn View Post
    He can fold the bottom of his 3 bet range to a 4 bet and continue with the top end.
    Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I think I like to 4bet QQ because so often the 3bet is AK, or even AQ, but AK we're still significant favourite against if we're deep, because he needs to hit the flop, not us, it's not a flip if he isn't seeing a turn and/or river. But, of course, as you can probably imagine, while I win a fair few decent size pots playing QQ like a maniac pf, I also pay off KK/AA fairly often. I rarely pay off AK though (apart from the 50% pre flop all ins beats of course), and since it's against AK more often than AA/KK, I'm still showing a decent profit with QQ, but lower pairs are more profitable for me, so something is wrong.

    As for sticking to one format, I prefer to play 9 handed, I seem to win less at 6max. I sometimes play 6max mtts, but I don't do so well once the maniac fish are gone. I do well early by playing tight and letting the idiots run into my big hands, but this doesn't work later because I pretty much suck at 6max, probably because I still snap-fold K9 and such junk. I play well 4 handed and less, but the 6-5 handed area is not my comfort zone.

    I would hope that tracker does indeed filter out different-format stats, obviously one would expect looser play shorter handed, so it would skew the stats if they were merged. That was why is asked really. I'm not sure if poker tracker consider a 6-handed game on a 9-seat table as 6-handed or 9-handed though.
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