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08-09-2010 12:10 PM #1
Donachello View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Dec 2009 Posts 1,239 Location TROLOLOLOLOL	Originally Posted by !Luck Plus, his gap between vp/pfr is wide enough for him not bet his flush draws so i can't be sure he bets for me to over shove on top. wat? how does VPIP/PFR have anything to do with how he plays his draws here. m2m's c/jam line is nice although b/calling also seems fine.
	[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind [00:30] <DC> daven [00:30] <DC> on my hand? [00:30] <daven> yep [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk [00:30] <daven> nice reason [00:30] <daven> no further questions [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol Problem officer...?
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08-09-2010 03:25 PM #2
PlayToWin View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 705	Originally Posted by Donachello wat? how does VPIP/PFR have anything to do with how he plays his draws here. m2m's c/jam line is nice although b/calling also seems fine. It says that he's a passive player PF (probably postflop, too) and when this player gets aggressive, you should pay attention. Calling PF and flop bets is passive, which is what we expect if he's on a flush draw. Shoving the turn is not passive. I think he does that with his made flush. I think it's less of a mistake to fold. I've noticed a lot of advice in the BC to jam and shove and everyone jumps on board and tells why it's +ev using the beauty of mathematics (math sucks ). The only way I can see calling this is if you've seen villian bluff/semi-bluff shove previously, i.e. you have a read on him.
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08-09-2010 06:31 PM #3
JKDS View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2008 Posts 6,780 Location Chandler, AZ	Originally Posted by PlayToWin It says that he's a passive player PF (probably postflop, too) and when this player gets aggressive, you should pay attention. Calling PF and flop bets is passive, which is what we expect if he's on a flush draw. Shoving the turn is not passive. I think he does that with his made flush. I think it's less of a mistake to fold. I've noticed a lot of advice in the BC to jam and shove and everyone jumps on board and tells why it's +ev using the beauty of mathematics (math sucks ). The only way I can see calling this is if you've seen villian bluff/semi-bluff shove previously, i.e. you have a read on him. Please tell me more about how vpip/pfr indicates passivity and how mathematics is useless in poker, as i've been under the impression that the exact opposite was true for quite some time.

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08-09-2010 06:39 PM #4
PlayToWin View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 705	Originally Posted by JKDS Please tell me more about how vpip/pfr indicates passivity and how mathematics is useless in poker, as i've been under the impression that the exact opposite was true for quite some time. Regarding vpip/pfr: Level? Regarding math: MEH, was joking.
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