AI w/JJJ vs Gutshot

[JKDS]

I didn't ask if I needed to put him on a range. I know I do.

Actually yes you did. And you cant discuss a hand history without doing this. Ranges is all poker is about. Its everything.


EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING EVERYTHING

You cant make a single action without doing this. You cannot justify a decision without it. You cannot fold, call, raise, bet, w/e without doing this!!! Not doing this is A HUGE ASS LEAK!

You chose to 3bet pre. Why? The only time i would ever consider 3betting JJ is after i put my opponent on a range and determined that he was calling with enough worse to make this profitable. I would never blindly 3bet an utg players open who also happens to have my massive stack covered. Its literally lighting money on fire.

If you determined u could 3bet pre for value then the flop is meh. Its good that his 77-99 probably call a street and his fd's call a street and he might have AT in his range...maybe...and maybe he also 4bets QQ+,AK so we can bet here profitably. You need a range to do this though! If the guy only continues to a flop bet with QQ+ and AdKd then betting is clearly wrong!

If you determined you could bet the flop for value, then the turn is awful. Ya, we have a set now. What calls when we bet? 99-88 probably fold now. AT has a hard time. Hes fit or fold so he isnt floating us very often and doesnt have many broadways that hit this and can continue. Whats worse is a flush is now possible as well so these smaller hands we got value from on the flop are pretty scared. Hands like AT with a diamond call, flushes call, thats really it.

However, maybe we played the flop bad and he has TT, AA-QQ in his range even though we thought we were betting for value. Then the turn is completely standard because these hands likely stack off still and he wont have a flush often enough really.

But u see the point ya? Every single decision is altered by what range we put villain on. We cant reasonably do a single thing without putting villain on a range!

[bhaley66]

Actually yes you did. And you cant discuss a hand history without doing this. Ranges is all poker is about. Its everything.


EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING EVERYTHING

You cant make a single action without doing this. You cannot justify a decision without it. You cannot fold, call, raise, bet, w/e without doing this!!! Not doing this is A HUGE ASS LEAK!

You chose to 3bet pre. Why? The only time i would ever consider 3betting JJ is after i put my opponent on a range and determined that he was calling with enough worse to make this profitable. I would never blindly 3bet an utg players open who also happens to have my massive stack covered. Its literally lighting money on fire.

If you determined u could 3bet pre for value then the flop is meh. Its good that his 77-99 probably call a street and his fd's call a street and he might have AT in his range...maybe...and maybe he also 4bets QQ+,AK so we can bet here profitably. You need a range to do this though! If the guy only continues to a flop bet with QQ+ and AdKd then betting is clearly wrong!

If you determined you could bet the flop for value, then the turn is awful. Ya, we have a set now. What calls when we bet? 99-88 probably fold now. AT has a hard time. Hes fit or fold so he isnt floating us very often and doesnt have many broadways that hit this and can continue. Whats worse is a flush is now possible as well so these smaller hands we got value from on the flop are pretty scared. Hands like AT with a diamond call, flushes call, thats really it.

However, maybe we played the flop bad and he has TT, AA-QQ in his range even though we thought we were betting for value. Then the turn is completely standard because these hands likely stack off still and he wont have a flush often enough really.

But u see the point ya? Every single decision is altered by what range we put villain on. We cant reasonably do a single thing without putting villain on a range!

So, I just woke up feeling like a dipshit. In clear head I would have put him on a range.

Thank you for this post JKDS... Seriously.

I started the night practicing ranging and did so for a couple hours, I just began to get lazy I guess. I was done for the night when this hand started, and that is because I realized that I was getting lazy, and not paying enough attention. I need to continue to work on this very hard as well as many other things, however this is at the top of my list...