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    I'd like to hear why you raised the flop so small.

    Calling the turn has the benefit of getting 423512345:1, but has the disadvantage of giving him 423512345:1 when he has Ad4c or some other random shit. Shoving the turn has the benefit of probably getting value from random crap like KTo. Hands like J8 are definitely in his range, and he's not folding those either. I think shoving the turn is better than calling because of how many river cards suck for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'd like to hear why you raised the flop so small.

    Calling the turn has the benefit of getting 423512345:1, but has the disadvantage of giving him 423512345:1 when he has Ad4c or some other random shit. Shoving the turn has the benefit of probably getting value from random crap like KTo. Hands like J8 are definitely in his range, and he's not folding those either. I think shoving the turn is better than calling because of how many river cards suck for you.
    Not to mentioned our redraw to the straight flush!

    But seriously, I'd like a larger flop raise and I think spoon is right about the shove. However... this spot is teh gay.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'd like to hear why you raised the flop so small.
    Quote Originally Posted by DC
    I'd like a larger flop raise
    That's actually probably a couple of big blinds more than I would normally raise in this spot. I have to admit it's (sadly one of far too many) a place where I don't really think about my raise size. What's small/big for you guys here?

    I think my reasoning behind the rather arbitrary pick of 2.5 was that the pot is about 3 (3.35 after my call, I guess), so I'm betting near pot without going over it. I guess you both feel betting larger doesn't change his continuing range substantially/at all?

    As I say, when you say "so small" I have no idea if you mean standard would be 3.5 or 7.5 or what. Interested in hearing thoughts on it, though. I can see that if I make it like 6, then I'm setting up a fairly easy turn shove, which is nice. But I would be worried that he's not willing to call with his draws when I go from 0.25 all the way up to 6.

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