What could I have done differently

[knightwalker]

I could really use some advice here. We have a weekly game on Tuesday Nights. It's a 5 buyin and everyone gets 1500 in chips. About as low stakes as you can get. The blinds start at 10/20 and double everytime someone bust out. Last night there were seven playing. I can usually beat most of the players at our game with one exception, my wife to be. She plays extremely Loose and Passive. She will see a flop with almost any two cards goes to the river way too much. It should be a cake walk beating her, but she catches cards on the river like she has a net. Last night I tried to just stay out of her way. She doesn't catch the miracle cards with everyone else as often so If I wait, she will usually bust out, then I can do well against the rest of the pack. Here is what happened last night. I am in the BB. We had been playing for awhile but no one had busted out yet so the blinds were 10/20. I look down to see pocket eights. All but two checked around to me. I check as well. The flop comes 8 9 4 unsuited. Everyone Checked to the Small Blind (my Fiance). She raises 100. I didn't want any straights to blow out my trips so I raise to 300 to isolate the Small Blind. Everyone folds and she calls. Next card comes a second 4. I made the Full House. She raises 200. I know that she will not walk away from two pair so I push all in (another 700 and change). She calls. She turns over a 94. You know the rest river comes a 9 and she blows my Full house out. I can never put her on a hand because she will play anything. I keep telling myself that the odds will catch up with her, and try to play correctly. I usually go head to head with her with the best of it then get sucked out. I have tried being aggressive with my strong hands against her, but she will not be pushed out. My latest strategy with her is to be loose before the flop and tight aggressive post flop when I feel I am ahead. Any advice would be apprieciated.

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[dalecooper]

You need to raise her more - pre-flop with true quality hands, post-flop any time you hit something big. Make her pay to chase. Tight-ultra aggressive. The luck factor will even itself out.

[LeFou]

Yeah, this type is good fodder for LeFou's patented Annoying Constant Minraises (ACM).

What you're doing is making each hand a little bit more expensive. Just a little -- you don't get a significant portion of your stack in unless you've got "real" cards. But your cards are, on the average, better than hers, and that's what you want. You want her in with you every single time, with worse cards.

'Course the strat has to be fine-tuned to account for the other personalities at the table.

[TylerK]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

She's already extremely loose and passive, why keep beating her?

[Sed]

hurry up and marry her, then whatever your spouse wins from you will be yours too.
Wait, that only works if you're the woman... At least she's taking your money fairly by winning it . My wife takes a 50% "tax" on my homegame winnings. It could be worse.

-sed

[Fnord]

For those of you unmarried...

Either marry very rich or very poor.

My wife doesn't know what to do with all of our money...

[koolmoe]

Maybe you should just buy her this and stay at home Tuesday nights. That way, she could still take you up the ass, but at least you'd save some gas money.

[koolmoe]

My wife doesn't know what to do with all of our money...

Would you like me to have my wife call her to give her some ideas?

Seriously, my wife was a poor girl, and I have to twist her arm to get her to spend money on herself to assuage my guilt for my spending habits. Though now that I've replaced golf with online poker those guilty feelings are gone.

[PipeLN]

My sister-in-law plays the same way. She calls raises with anything and usually gets lucky on the river. I have sworn off going all-in against her unless I have the absolute nuts. You see, she doesn't have a clue about the odds. If I bet the size of the pot she will call, if I bet the minimum she will call that too. There can be 4 cards to the flush on the turn and she will still call with just a pair. I just bet the minimum amount if I catch something and check her down if she calls it. I chip away at her stack like this until she is no longer a threat to me. It takes a while but I would rather win several small pots than lose one big one to an underdog on the river.

I would also suggest playing her heads-up at home to spot tells in her game.

PipeLN

[Sed]

My wife doesn't know what to do with all of our money...

Would you like me to have my wife call her to give her some ideas?

Seriously, my wife was a poor girl, and I have to twist her arm to get her to spend money on herself to assuage my guilt for my spending habits. Though now that I've replaced golf with online poker those guilty feelings are gone.

Mine's funny, she takes my poker money but I have to talk her into spending 20$ on a charm thingy she wanted on her birthday....

-sed

[Humphrind]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

Hey.

Some of us just have wives that are better at poker than us.

What of it?

[knightwalker]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

She's already extremely loose and passive, why keep beating her?

You guys are cracking me up. I didn't even think about the fact that I am going to marry a Loose and Passive Woman.

[knightwalker]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

She's already extremely loose and passive, why keep beating her?

You guys are cracking me up. I didn't even think about the fact that I am going to marry a Loose and Passive Woman.

[jokerindapack]

My wife is very Tight and Aggressive and she always seems get on top of me.....wait a minute go over the top of me and bluff me out...yeah that's what I meant.

[knightwalker]

My sister-in-law plays the same way. She calls raises with anything and usually gets lucky on the river. I have sworn off going all-in against her unless I have the absolute nuts. You see, she doesn't have a clue about the odds. If I bet the size of the pot she will call, if I bet the minimum she will call that too. There can be 4 cards to the flush on the turn and she will still call with just a pair. I just bet the minimum amount if I catch something and check her down if she calls it. I chip away at her stack like this until she is no longer a threat to me. It takes a while but I would rather win several small pots than lose one big one to an underdog on the river.

I would also suggest playing her heads-up at home to spot tells in her game.

PipeLN

That sounds exactly like her. There can be a four to a straight flush on the board and a pair of twos and if she has two pair (the twos and a match on another card, she thinks she has a strong hand. I'll try that approach. And playing heads up with her won't help spot her tells. She does the exact same thing on every hand she gets. She looks at the cards, glances at the faces of the other players, looks at the money in front of her, then looks to the person that is acting. I have looked and looked for deviations from this and I just cannot get a read on her. Well except one. When she fold to my bets, she has lousy cards.

[Autocratic]

Your first problem is letting women into your home game.

Next thing you know they'll want voting rights and full time jobs. I mean....come on....

[fishstick]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

Hey.

Some of us just have wives that are better at poker than us.

What of it?

there's nothing wrong with your wife being a better poker player than you. it has other applications as well:

humpty - "wake up honey, i heard a noise.
mrs humpty - "it's ok, just calm down, i think it was the cat."
humpty - "can you go and look, just to be sure?"
mrs humpty - "sure, if it'll make you feel better."

[a500lbgorilla]

let me get this straight...you are asking advice on how to beat your WIFE ?

lmao I'm sorry thats too funny

Hey.

Some of us just have wives that are better at poker than us.

What of it?

there's nothing wrong with your wife being a better poker player than you. it has other applications as well:

humpty - "wake up honey, i heard a noise.
mrs humpty - "it's ok, just calm down, i think it was the cat."
humpty - "can you go and look, just to be sure?"
mrs humpty - "sure, if it'll make you feel better."

God bless you, Fishstick.

An early christmas present.

(Or Chrismahaniqeanzika or whatever the fug that stupid all people holliday is called)

-'rilla

[Molinero]

... I can usually beat most of the players at our game with one exception, my wife to be. ...she catches cards on the river like she has a net.

I think we're missing the obvious. There are two possibilities, my friend.

1. Your perception is that she is catching miracles against you on every river, whereas the reality is that you -- like most players -- don't like losing and are therefore remembering the bad beats, or...

2. She's a witch -- burn her!

[bigred]

humpty - "wake up honey, i heard a noise.
mrs humpty - "it's ok, just calm down, i think it was the cat."
humpty - "can you go and look, just to be sure?"
mrs humpty - "sure, if it'll make you feel better."

Wow, I still can't stop laughing.




BURN HER!!!

[mike4066]

Maybe you should just buy her this and stay at home Tuesday nights. That way, she could still take you up the ass, but at least you'd save some gas money.

Koolmoe! Next time put a "not work safe" warning on that would ya

gonna get my ass fired clicking links in this place

[mike4066]

BURN HER!!!

what makes you think she's a witch?

well.. she turned me into a newt..

A newt?

I got better..

Don't get me started... wow this thread went off topic

[knightwalker]

... I can usually beat most of the players at our game with one exception, my wife to be. ...she catches cards on the river like she has a net.

I think we're missing the obvious. There are two possibilities, my friend.

1. Your perception is that she is catching miracles against you on every river, whereas the reality is that you -- like most players -- don't like losing and are therefore remembering the bad beats, or...

2. She's a witch -- burn her!

She could be a witch. Seriously, in the last month, she has busted me out of just about every game I have not finished 1st or 2nd. When I am not in the pot whe will often show second pair, bottom pair or top pair. I know when she is betting, she has at least second pair and I don't get envolved unless I know I can beat at least top pair. It is not uncommon for her to catch the second pair on the river. I think I am going to simply give her credit for a Monster every time she bets and run. I like the idea earlier of constantly mini raising her and folding when she fires bets back, but it seems like she could catch on after a while. No my plan is to just keep working on my calculations I am getting stronger with calculating the odds, but need to work on identifing my "True" outs. For example, I think I have been over counting my outs from time to time because I don't alway see when an out actually puts a scare card on the board giving the other players a redraw against me. I am still early in my learning curve . I just need to keep telling myself that in the long run the odds will catch up with her if I am doing the math right. Time will tell.

[a500lbgorilla]

She could be a witch. Seriously, in the last month

And THAT is the momment when I stopped reading your post, knightwalker. The future just doesn't bode well when you open up with the words "She", "witch" and "month."

-'rilla

[Spook]

LoL

[Why do they call it PMS? because "Mad Cow" was already taken]

[koolmoe]

Koolmoe! Next time put a "not work safe" warning on that would ya

What part of "take you up the ass" made you think it was work-safe?

[Toasty]

Koolmoe! Next time put a "not work safe" warning on that would ya

LOL Mike if you check the status bar mike its got "Paulas Power Tools" in the link, guess you thought it was DIY tools huh