*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[MadMojoMonkey]

Also, we were taught in sensitivity training not to ask students that at all. Seems our uni is ahead of the Palace on that one.

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Sounds like the whole, "I don't see race," nonsense that I used to say myself, without realizing that denying a person their culture, history, and current social situation is still racist. Pretending racism doesn't exist still marginalizes their identity.

I mean, sure... if you are an accidental racist (this is far more common than intentional racism, mind), and you're not aware of it, then prob. you're very likely to accidentally offend someone - in this case, a student. From the administration's POV, that's the cheapest and easiest way of not dealing with this problem. Blame the accident as intent and end any learning or conversation about it. Definitely end any discussion before someone asks what's a better way to respect the student, in which case, you risk being accused over an accident in the same way.


It'd be better if we learn from each other. It'd be better if we see each other and understand the nuances that we didn't see before. It'd be better if everyone took a deep breath and apologized for any mistaken offense and admitted they need to learn how to be more empathetic in those situations. It'd be better if we could stop treating all racism as intent, and realize that people make mistakes, sometimes hurtful mistakes, and that doesn't mean they meant any harm at all.

It's far too easy for the media in the US to absolutely shield white people from black culture. It's far too easy for white people to have only a bastardized media bias providing them information about black lives. I really don't think it's fair to excuse people from accidental racism, but I also don't think it's on nearly the same level as intentional racism. If you've been lied to your whole life, and you believe even some of those lies, then that's a problem... but it's not an intent to devalue another person, it's being brainwashed into not seeing the other person's reality.

[Poopadoop]

It'd be better if we learn from each other. It'd be better if we see each other and understand the nuances that we didn't see before. It'd be better if everyone took a deep breath and apologized for any mistaken offense and admitted they need to learn how to be more empathetic in those situations. It'd be better if we could stop treating all racism as intent, and realize that people make mistakes, sometimes hurtful mistakes, and that doesn't mean they meant any harm at all.

This is more or less what I'm getting at. I don't think Lady TE was going out of her way to be racist to Fulani - she just didn't know any better because when she grew up it was acceptable for whites to feel superior. She may even feel superior because of her class, not race. That said, there's nothing wrong with a POC saying "this is not ok, people need to do better."

All the hysteria around this is the media making a bigger deal of something than it really is.

News update: Fulani has said she never wanted Lady TE to be sacked, and Lady TE has asked to meet with Fulani and smooth things out. I'm guessing she's learned a lesson. It's too bad the palace didn't teach it to before the event in question, that would have avoided this whole kerfuffle.

The royals have been accused of racism before, and caught saying some racist things, most notably by Harry and Megan. So it's not like this just came out of nowhere.