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[OngBonga]

I'm saying helping them get here is a lot better than letting them sit forever in Calais

I agree. Not by ferrying them undocumented though. Rather, by having an immigration office in France to assist them, and those who are approved we do ferry in safely.

Your answer seems to be that France should both a) feed and house them indefinitely; and b) Keep them from trying to get here when it's here that they want to go to.

a) certainly. We just agreed that the UK has a responsibility to feed and house migrants in the UK. That should remain the case as long as they are in the UK and not supporting themselves.

b) partly, France should only stop them putting themselves at serious risk of harm. Of course France need to also enforce normal border controls at ports and tunnel train stations, for their own national security and ours, just like we check who's leaving our country for France.

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Of course France need to also enforce normal border controls at ports and tunnel train stations, for their own national security and ours, just like we check who's leaving our country for France.

Pretty sure they're doing this already.

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I agree. Not by ferrying them undocumented though. Rather, by having an immigration office in France to assist them, and those who are approved we do ferry in safely.

I guess I'll just keep saying this until it sinks in, or you go find it out for yourself.

They cannot apply for asylum in the UK until they're physically in the UK. You cannot therefore decide on their UK asylum status while they're in another country. So having a UK offiical in Calais checking asylum seekers' documents is pointless (and probably illegal).

[OngBonga]

I guess I'll just keep saying this until it sinks in, or you go find it out for yourself.

They cannot apply for asylum in the UK until they're physically in the UK. You cannot therefore decide on their UK asylum status while they're in another country. So having a UK offiical in Calais checking asylum seekers' documents is pointless (and probably illegal).

I think you're wrong. UK law states that we can refuse asylum if it can be shown they could have applied from another country. Why would UK law say this if it's not possible for asylum to be applied for in another country?