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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This isn't a solution anyone with a brain is suggesting.
    Obviously. But it speaks to the - I hesitate to use the word - futility? - of the protests. This is not like it's the first time something like this has happened. It's not right of course, but women who go out alone at night all know they are taking a chance of running into a male creep of some kind. If you talk to them, the vast majority of women will say they've been harrassed/stalked/followed at some point or other, often multiple times by different men, in their lives. So it's not just the occassional murder; it's a serious ongoing problem for women.

    I don't know what the solution is. One idea would be longer sentences for sex offenders before they escalate to worse crimes, as many of them do. Another would be psychological intervention.

    Having more police on the beat would help women feel safe, but it's not going to stop a determined psychopath.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    We're also making assumptions this was a sexual assault along those lines. That is a reasonable thing to assume, but I don't think that has been confirmed. We don't know if this lady was known to the alleged killer. We don't know the full story.Of course this wouldn't make it any better, but people are, understandably, jumping to conclusions.
    It doesn't really matter if it's sexual or not. But it's a fair assumption given history. Men who grab women off the street to kill and dump in the woods are almost always getting their sexual jollies out of it. If it was a police officer it's probably less likely to have been sexual, since it'd be hard for a sex offender to get a job on the force. But I wouldn't rule it out either.





    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think with regards the pandemic, it's hard to argue than anyone else could have done a batter job.
    It's always hard to argue about things that we'll never know. That's part of the problem here.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    The UK is a densely populated island.
    Population density makes a difference, but it's only one of many things that do. Thailand is also densely populated, as are several other countries that have done much much MUCH better than us.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's easy to blame those in charge for the high death toll, but you can't know what the true factors are.
    There are plenty of factors the experts know impact the death rates, and of those that the gov't can control, they've fucked up every one.

    1. Lockdowns. Ignored the scientific advice, so these have been too little and too late, three times in a row now.
    2. Travel restrictions. A YEAR too late. Ignored scientific advice again.
    3. Test, trace, and isolate. Spent a fortune on a system they put their mates in charge of that didn't work. Did not provide enough economic support for people who needed to isolate.
    4. Messaging. It should be clear and consistent. Quite the opposite has happened here, the rules change so often no-one knows what they are anymore, and the guidance was not even followed by members of the gov't itself.

    The only thing they have done well with is the vax program, and that only because they gave it to the professionals to do. Makes one wonder what would have happened had they let the health experts run the pandemic response rather than listening to the anti-lockdown loonies.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 03-15-2021 at 03:32 PM.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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