CORONAVIRUS PANIC WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE

[Poopadoop]

Every exposure you have to someone leaves you with some kind of impression. It's unlikely you'll remember each of these exposures in detail, and so unlikely you'll be able to articulate what exactly they did or said that turned you on or off. They eventually just become the sum of the impressions, good and bad.

In Trump's case, he's in the news every day, and I'm sure I can't even remember 90% of the shit he's done or said that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sometimes I watch an old clip on youtube and then remember, 'oh yeah, he told the Russian ambassador some classified shit 3 years ago. Wtf.' I'd forgotten about that, so it wouldn't even make my laundry list if you asked me.

Some of the stuff he does amuses me too. It just doesn't outweigh the bad. So asking me what's the worst thing he's done is (in my mind at least) not helpful. Because even if you can convince me that putting kids in cages (let's say) is ok (and you never will), I'm still going to have the same general impression of him. Trump going from a -100 to a -95 in my mind, that is not going to turn me into a fan.

[wufwugy]

Some of the stuff he does amuses me too. It just doesn't outweigh the bad. So asking me what's the worst thing he's done is (in my mind at least) not helpful. Because even if you can convince me that putting kids in cages (let's say) is ok (and you never will), I'm still going to have the same general impression of him. Trump going from a -100 to a -95 in my mind, that is not going to turn me into a fan.

Yeah, for a productive discussion, we would have to at least first agree that if the #1 issue is debunked, it suggests we should view the others on the laundry list as possible hallucinations.

Just curious: is kids in cages your #1?

[Poopadoop]

Yeah, for a productive discussion, we would have to at least first agree that if the #1 issue is debunked, it suggests we should view the others on the laundry list as possible hallucinations.

Just curious: is kids in cages your #1?

It's certainly up there near the top. Like I said though, I'm really not keeping a scorecard on the guy. I do have a life to live.

And, I think we could only have a productive discussion if I were somehow open to the idea that separating families/kids in cages is an acceptable means of treating the immigration problem, or if you were open to the idea that its not.

I won't try to speak for you, but tbh I'm not sure I'm prepared to accept any argument that makes it ok.

[wufwugy]

kids in cages

What would you do?

[Poopadoop]

What would you do?

Not put them in cages. How about you?

[wufwugy]

Do you know why the security and evaluation policy exists in the first place?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Do you know why the security and evaluation policy exists in the first place?

Yes.
Lies, BS and fear-mongering.

Now answer the question.

[boost]

That is definitely true. What do you think is a good way to test the list?

The tool I've adopted to test the list is to test the most egregious of the grievances. If that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, then almost certainly the others don't as well. However, if it does stand up to scrutiny, then it's looking like the others have a solid leg to stand on as well.

Do you think that's a helpful way of going about it?

I don't think this is a bad heuristic to layer on the laundry list heuristic, but this still misses the habitual line steppers, pathological liars, emotional bullies, etc.

Every exposure you have to someone leaves you with some kind of impression. It's unlikely you'll remember each of these exposures in detail, and so unlikely you'll be able to articulate what exactly they did or said that turned you on or off. They eventually just become the sum of the impressions, good and bad.

In Trump's case, he's in the news every day, and I'm sure I can't even remember 90% of the shit he's done or said that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sometimes I watch an old clip on youtube and then remember, 'oh yeah, he told the Russian ambassador some classified shit 3 years ago. Wtf.' I'd forgotten about that, so it wouldn't even make my laundry list if you asked me.

Some of the stuff he does amuses me too. It just doesn't outweigh the bad. So asking me what's the worst thing he's done is (in my mind at least) not helpful. Because even if you can convince me that putting kids in cages (let's say) is ok (and you never will), I'm still going to have the same general impression of him. Trump going from a -100 to a -95 in my mind, that is not going to turn me into a fan.

Well said. I'm not limiting my critique of the president to this, but I think it's a sufficient critique to say he's committed original sins that cannot be overcome. And that's no fault of the detractors.