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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Is there any quote of him discrediting the polygraph or refusing to take one himself, or anything like that?
    Otherwise, I don't see the hypocrisy indicated in the article.
    Especially the part where it's, "in the coming hours and days..."
    Did any of that happen?


    This is bog-standard. In general, people don't make laws to regulate their own behavior(s).
    Other than Congress voting to increase their own pay, people don't tend to make laws that have any expected effect on themselves.


    I wish we lived in that world, but we don't.

    This is verbatim what his ruling said

    As the Government notes, law enforcement agencies use polygraphs to test the credibility of witnesses and criminal defendants. Those agencies also use polygraphs to “screen applicants for security clearances so that they may be deemed suitable for work in critical law enforcement, defense, and intelligence collection roles.”

    The Government has satisfactorily explained how polygraph examinations serve law enforcement purposes.

    Second, the reports contain information about techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations. As the Government points out, the reports detail whether a particular agency’s polygraph procedures and techniques are effective. The reports identify strengths and weaknesses of particular polygraph programs. In describing the effectiveness of polygraph techniques and procedures, the reports necessarily would disclose information about the underlying techniques and procedures themselves, including when the agencies are likely to employ them.
    So, he accepted and ruled that the Government has satisfactorily explained how polygraph examinations serve law enforcement purposes, yet now he believes these are unreliable. Didn't he know these were unreliable back when he was doing that ruling? It's either hypocrisy, ineptitude, or a combination of both.

    This is what he now says, while on the hotseat when asked if he had taken a polygraph

    “No, I’ll do whatever the committee wants. Of course, those are not admissible in federal court,” he said, knowing that the Republican-controlled committee was unlikely to instruct him to take a polygraph. “They’re not admissible in federal court because they are not reliable, as you know.”
    He also got on the moral high ground when they "asked about his sexual life".

    When we remember, in the Ken Starr/Arkansas/Bill Clinton investigation on some real estate deals he attacked Billy's sex life savagely.

    Cigar's, anyone?

    with a focus on highly specific and explicit interrogations — "piece by painful piece" — including multiple queries clarifying precisely where the ejaculate landed. "The idea of going easy on him is ... abhorrent to me," Kavanaugh wrote.
    The hypocrisy is off the charts with this "choir boy". Plus, he did it. The devil's (triangle) is in the details
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This is what he now says, while on the hotseat when asked if he had taken a polygraph
    Thanks. That's what I was wondering about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The hypocrisy is off the charts with this "choir boy". Plus, he did it. The devil's (triangle) is in the details
    The rest is interesting, but do you care if/that he did this stuff?

    Not one accusation is alarming to me. It's just some teenage and early-20's pervy shit he did at parties. He certainly shouldn't be getting pervy with anyone whom isn't into that, but if that's the end of it... c'mon. Doing regrettable things at college parties is as American as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Not one accusation is alarming to me. It's just some teenage and early-20's pervy shit he did at parties. He certainly shouldn't be getting pervy with anyone whom isn't into that, but if that's the end of it... c'mon. Doing regrettable things at college parties is as American as it gets.
    You make it sound like all he did was pinch a girl's ass in a bar. What is it about 'attempted rape' that you think is ok to do, but only in college when you're drunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Thanks. That's what I was wondering about.


    The rest is interesting, but do you care if/that he did this stuff?

    Not one accusation is alarming to me. It's just some teenage and early-20's pervy shit he did at parties. He certainly shouldn't be getting pervy with anyone whom isn't into that, but if that's the end of it... c'mon. Doing regrettable things at college parties is as American as it gets.
    A lying supreme court justice. Under oath.

    Let that sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    A lying supreme court justice. Under oath.

    Let that sink in.
    I have. It's not pretty.
    If he's lying, it's about sex. Americans can't handle any public conversation about sex, so of all the things to lie about, I guess it could be a lot worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I have. It's not pretty.
    If he's lying, it's about sex. Americans can't handle any public conversation about sex, so of all the things to lie about, I guess it could be a lot worse.
    It's telling about his character. You can't have a person like that making decisions affecting thousands of lives.

    You are lying under oath! You are lying in a sworn fucking testimony. How can I trust this asshole ever?

    More on his character: the Clinton hearing, and "raunchy details", yet he cries when they apply a modicum of that treatment to him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    More on his character: the Clinton hearing, and "raunchy details", yet he cries when they apply a modicum of that treatment to him
    He's not accused of anywhere near the same thing. Not even in the same universe.

    The fact that you can take a factual account of the president of the united states getting down and dirty with his own intern, in the oval office and equate that with an alleged drunken teenage gropey horseplay is a better testament to your hypocrisy and demagoguery than anything I could have posted on my own.

    That's so immensely preposterous I don't know how you stand yourself.
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    Oh dear banana called poop a cunt.

    Suppose I'd better do some modding.

    Poop, don't goad banana while you wait to see if mojo bans him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    He's not accused of anywhere near the same thing. Not even in the same universe.

    The fact that you can take a factual account of the president of the united states getting down and dirty with his own intern, in the oval office and equate that with an alleged drunken teenage gropey horseplay is a better testament to your hypocrisy and demagoguery than anything I could have posted on my own.

    That's so immensely preposterous I don't know how you stand yourself.
    Do you know whaat the word "modicum" means?
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