Trump is the WWE and Mueller is The Undertaker

[MadMojoMonkey]

No, you don't see 5 believable stories. You see TWO believable stories and a binary distribution that favors one of those stories by a ratio of 4 to 1. How you don't find that compelling makes me wonder how you can be a man of science.

I said it's a red herring whether or not her story is true. If it's false, then it doesn't matter. If it's true, then a pattern of repeated behavior will become known and no single story being true or false with change the greater picture.

My personal belief is that there is never an in-between when it comes to sex.
I.e. if someone has a problem with this, then it is never a 1-off event.

If every single word this cunt says turns out to be 100% true....and BK gets confirmed anyway.....there still wouldn't be a rapist on the SCOTUS.

You might wanna turn down the ol' demagogue-sensitivity dial

I never said otherwise. I said if what she said is true, then there will be loads of other people with similar claims.
If it becomes a Cosby level of accusations, then it becomes far more likely that he's guilty than not, IMO.

I don't personally think having a known rapist on SCOTUS is good for American legal precedent, but maybe Congress disagrees. If so, then fine. I'll deal with the consequences as they come.

I said if what she said is true, then we'll soon see more people coming forward making similar claims. If that is 1 or 2 people, then it's easy to see them as opportunists. If it's dozens of people, then it becomes harder and harder to believe that all of them are making it up.

That's my hypothesis, not a fact, not based on any data other than my lack of any experience with a person whom was a 1-time sexual predator, but never again thereafter.

You might wanna turn down the ol' demagogue-sensitivity dial

How am I expressing demagoguery?
I'm not appealing for anyone to support my ideas, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm just sharing my opinions.

I'm not sure what you mean when you use the word. Can you clarify?

[BananaStand]

I'm not sure what you mean when you use the word. Can you clarify?

Your use of the word rapist = demagoguery

It's an appeal to an emotional argument. You have no basis in fact, or in legal definitions, for using the word "rapist"

[Poopadoop]

Your use of the word rapist = demagoguery

It's an appeal to an emotional argument. You have no basis in fact, or in legal definitions, for using the word "rapist"

Here, let me hold your hand through this. Got it? Ok, now pay attention.

He said "I don't want a rapist on the SC". He did not say "K is a rapist."

See the difference? That's issue number one. You have to read what people say and take that for what it means, not give it a different meaning by changing a word or two, and then responding to that different meaning as if THAT was what they said.

Issue number two: Even if he did say "K is a rapist" (and I remind you again he didn't), that's not demagoguery. It's an opinion, unproven. Everyone here who might have read that (if he'd actually said it, which he didn't) is aware of its (currently at least) unproven status. So it's not a means he would theoretically (if he had actually said that - which he didn't - see issue one above) be using to persuade you or anyone else here of anything. It would simply be him making an unsubstantiated claim.

Again, not to keep harping on it, but it's important you learn this, this second point is only a hypothetical, because of the first issue, which is really an important element of your continuing difficulty in communicating effectively with people here: it's not actually what he said.

[BananaStand]

Here, let me hold your hand through this. Got it? Ok, now pay attention.

He said "I don't want a rapist on the SC". He did not say "K is a rapist."

Here let me hold your hand through this. Now look both ways. Wait for the light..... Ok let's go

I was asked to use fewer words. If you want me to start unpacking all of my responses again...i will. But in this case, MMM's use of the word rapist, is within the following context that summarizes his overall point:

"We should let this Kavanaugh thing play out because if we don't we might have a rapist on the SC"

^If I'm misrepresenting MMM's point, I welcome the correction.

I have two responses to this...

1) Define "play out". 6 FBI background checks, 1200+ written questions, 30 hours of testimony.....what's "enough"? How many accusers of dubious credibility should we entertain?

2) Where did the word "rapist" come from?

No one has accused BK of rape. It's not even reasonable at this time to even speculate that he's possibly committed rape on anyone ever. Why is it a concern that there would be a rapist on the supreme court? Why is that an issue. At worst, if everything Ford says is true, you would have an over-zealous groper on the SC. If we're jumping from that to "rapist", without any credible piece of factual evidence to support such an incendiary charge, then there has to be a reason.

If that reason is a credible suspicion of rape...I'd like to hear what that is.

If the reason for using that word is to emphasize a point and garner support for your argument by leveraging most human beings' distaste for rape....then that is demagoguery

[Poopadoop]

I was asked to use fewer words. So I changed someone else's words to suit my argument, and here's a long-winded justification for whatever else I said

Hilarious.

[BananaStand]

Hilarious.

Well if you don't get the short version, I'll elaborate. If that bothers you, be smarter.

[Poopadoop]

Well if you don't get the short version, I'll elaborate. If that bothers you, be smarter.

I did get the short version. It was hilarious too.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Your use of the word rapist = demagoguery

It's an appeal to an emotional argument. You have no basis in fact, or in legal definitions, for using the word "rapist"

My quote was, "I care if there's a rapist on SCOTUS." in an abstract conversation about whom to believe in this kind of he-said/she-said.

I've made it clear that I'm not accusing BK of anything, nor taking a side in this, yet.

It's a fair point that Dr. Ford is not accusing BK of rape. She uses the term sexual assault.
I'll refrain from using that word in this conversation.

[Poopadoop]

How am I expressing demagoguery?

You aren't. He's just using his favourite big word he learned from me.

I'm not sure what you mean when you use the word.

He doesn't know either. He just thinks it's a good name to call someone who expresses a thought that results in him experiencing cognitive dissonance.