*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[Poopadoop]

oskar, aren't you the one in favour of baby jails? I mean, if two criminal parents go to jail, I assume you think the child should remain in the care of one of the parents? I make the assumption based on your opposition to "separating families". I can only conlude that you think there should be prisons specifically designed to house parents and babies, which could be coined a "baby jail".

Or perhaps you think criminals should be allowed to get away with breaking the law by simply pointing to their child.

Not sure if this has been explained to you, but in the US there are felonies (which you go to prison for) and misdemeanors (which you don't). Felonies are things like murder, rape, arson, etc.; misdemeanors are shoplifting, speeding, jaywalking, etc. And being in the country illegally is considered by law a misdemeanor.

So, unless you think people should be put in prison for shoplifting and separated from their children, then it's hard to justify applying such a policy to illegal immigrants.

And if you DO think shoplifters and others who commit misdemeanors should be jailed, then you might want to consider that a civilized state has a responsibility to rehome their children with another family, not keep them in a separate prison daycare for kids.

Add on top of that the fact that many of those jailed and separated are seeking refugee status, were later allowed to go free (when there was no justification for jailing them in the first place, since their 'crime' was at most a misdemeanor, if it was a crime at all), and then remained separated from their kids because someone couldn't be bothered to do some paperwork to record which kids belonged with which adults, then you might wonder what kind of callous retard is running the show.

After this, when the courts tell this callous retard his policy is illegal and inhumane, and force him to halt it, and then you see a video of that same callous retard tossing paper towels to hurricane victims, it all starts to make sense.

[BananaStand]

And being in the country illegally is considered by law a misdemeanor.

Actually a first offense border crossing is a misdemeanor, and actually IS punishable by prison. Subsequent offenses are felonies, and are punishable by more prison. Nice try there. But just saying things in a way that makes it sound like you know what the fuck your'e talking about doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Poopadoop]

Actually a first offense border crossing is a misdemeanor, and actually IS punishable by prison. Subsequent offenses are felonies, and are punishable by more prison. Nice try there. But just saying things in a way that makes it sound like you know what the fuck your'e talking about doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're talking about.

Tell it to the judge who forced the separation policy to end.

Oh wait, I'm sure he's a liberal crybaby snowflake 'cause he doesn't want to see families separated over a misdemeanor.

[BananaStand]

then remained separated from their kids because someone couldn't be bothered to do some paperwork to record which kids belonged with which adults,.

Again, you're just pretending like you know what the fuck you're talking about. You dont KNOW that it has anything to do with paperwork.

here's a more likely explanation....

Those kids were separated from their families LONG before they ever got near the border. Obviously the coyotes and cartels that are smuggling things and people across the border know that if they are with a kid, they don't go to jail. Maybe these bleedin' heart policies have created a perverse incentive for criminals to use children as decoys.

Or....if that's not the case, and they had always assumed that bringing a kid would not insulate them from imprisonment, then that means this stuff has been going on long before Trump. So why is it suddenly such an issue now?

[Poopadoop]

Again, you're just pretending like you know what the fuck you're talking about.

Just because something doesn't agree with your worldview doesn't mean it's incorrect.

You dont KNOW that it has anything to do with paperwork.

Authorities made the decision to take children from their parents without a plan to reunite families, resulting in numerous cases of parents and children having no contact since being forcefully separated.[15][16] Following national and international criticism, on June 20 President Trump signed an executive order ending family separations at the border.

There's a more likely explanation....according to Fox News...blah blah blah human trafficking, blah blah, criminal gangs, blah blah

It's easy to come up with excuses and alternate facts. The problem is it doesn't change anything, it just obfuscates the issue for lowbrows who don't want to believe their gov't deliberately acted this way.

And I seem to remember you saying it was ok to separate kids from parents if it would deter immigration, so not sure why you're now so keen to show they weren't doing it.

[BananaStand]

After this, when the courts tell this callous retard his policy is illegal and inhumane, and force him to halt it.

totally not what happened. Again, you're PRETENDING to know what the fuck you're talking about.

Trump didn't create any new policy. He just called for a zero-tolerance enforcement of existing laws. So it's not like the courts could do fuck about it. And when it went bad he said "WTF you want from me? If you don't like the law, change the fucking law congress!!"

And the republicans drafted a bill to address the problem. then the democrats said "no way we are letting the republicans be the hero on this. Yeah we're concerned about kids, but we care more about politics so we're gonna dig our heels in and get the media to keep blaming trump"

Then Trump issued an executive order. Problem solved.

[Poopadoop]

Trump didn't create any new policy. He just called for a zero-tolerance enforcement of existing laws.

Zero-tolerance enforcement was the new policy. Try not to get stuck on the big words.

So it's not like the courts could do fuck about it. And when it went bad he said "WTF you want from me? If you don't like the law, change the fucking law congress!!"

Lol, and that convinced who? I mean besides you and other Fox News fans.

To say 'I'm just enforcing the existing laws to their fullest, even though those laws are unfair and cruel, so it's not my fault I chose to change the policy from lax enforcement to zero tolerance' is about as disingenuous as it gets.

And the republicans drafted a bill to address the problem. then the democrats said "no way we are letting the republicans be the hero on this. Yeah we're concerned about kids, but we care more about politics so we're gonna dig our heels in and get the media to keep blaming trump"

Then Trump issued an executive order. Problem solved.

You're not kidding anyone.

Lol, Trump is the hero for changing a law that only began being enforced with zero tolerance once he decided it should be, never before. That's some kind of tap dance around the facts there.

How about just not changing the existing policy in the first place and avoiding the whole kerfuffle?