Trump is the WWE and Mueller is The Undertaker

[MadMojoMonkey]

Never married, but with the same woman for over 10 years.
No kids. I don't want kids because I value my independence.
Look at that, we have something in common.

[BananaStand]

Never married, but with the same woman for over 10 years.
No kids. I don't want kids because I value my independence.
Look at that, we have something in common.

But you're in a monogamous, long term, committed relationship. Do you live together?

Where is the "independence"?

How old are the two of you? It's possible that her "baby-crazy" just hasn't kicked in yet.

Feminism has pushed the schedule back quite a bit in recent decades. Chicks don't really start to panic until after 35

[The Bean Counter]

Never married, but with the same woman for over 10 years.
No kids. I don't want kids because I value my independence.
Look at that, we have something in common.

How are you managing to avoid the marriage question? I'm asking for a friend...

Assuming you both agree on that and the kids?

[MadMojoMonkey]

How are you managing to avoid the marriage question? I'm asking for a friend...

Assuming you both agree on that and the kids?

Neither of us is at all excited about big formal affairs, or of big social events, or about keeping up appearances for the rest of the world.
Her parents sometimes give her a hard time about getting officially married, and that makes her a little antsy for a few hours, but then that passes and we're back to normal.
Having a piece of paper that is recognized by the state which affirms that we love each other is worth literally nothing to either of us. The fact that we're expected to throw a huge party and invite a bunch of people whom are acquaintances at best is a turn-off to both of us. Her family (her mom, really) has made it clear that they'll be disappointed if we just go to city hall and have no celebration.

We don't care one way or the other about the marriage title. Her parents want her to do something that neither she nor I want to do, and she doesn't want to disappoint them or do something she doesn't want to do, so here we are.

I made it 100% clear the moment there was a hint that we'd be dating that I am never going to want kids, and that this isn't something for her to ignore or to think she can change my mind about. I definitely do not want kids and if she sees herself as a mom someday, then I am not the man for her. She's never tried to broach the subject to change my mind.

[The Bean Counter]

Neither of us is at all excited about big formal affairs, or of big social events, or about keeping up appearances for the rest of the world.
Her parents sometimes give her a hard time about getting officially married, and that makes her a little antsy for a few hours, but then that passes and we're back to normal.
Having a piece of paper that is recognized by the state which affirms that we love each other is worth literally nothing to either of us. The fact that we're expected to throw a huge party and invite a bunch of people whom are acquaintances at best is a turn-off to both of us. Her family (her mom, really) has made it clear that they'll be disappointed if we just go to city hall and have no celebration.

We don't care one way or the other about the marriage title. Her parents want her to do something that neither she nor I want to do, and she doesn't want to disappoint them or do something she doesn't want to do, so here we are.

I made it 100% clear the moment there was a hint that we'd be dating that I am never going to want kids, and that this isn't something for her to ignore or to think she can change my mind about. I definitely do not want kids and if she sees herself as a mom someday, then I am not the man for her. She's never tried to broach the subject to change my mind.

Pretty much agree on the marriage thing. I find the idea a bit ridiculous, plus I'm not religious. I've been under pressure in the past (I think she feels societal pressure and likes the idea of it), but that's waning. We have a mortgage together and never argue, so all good.

On the kid front, I'm getting to the point in my life when I'm more for it. Completely agree that you need to get that sort of thing straight into the open though (if you're definitely against it). Better that than somebody thinking you've led them on for years and taken away some of the best years of their life.