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[BananaStand]

Medicare is a socialist programme

Nope.

Is it even worth continuing this conversation now? I mean, your whole understanding of the program (one m, zero e's) is completely cracked. Can we just accept that and assume that this will end where all of our discussions end.....with your demagoguery being completely debunked and you grappling with cognitive dissonance after being forced to contend with facts and not your self-serving partisan understanding of the world? If so, then stop reading now.

If you'd rather get educated....well....here we go.

Medicare is NOT a socialist program. That implies redistribution, which is not what medicare does. Socialism seeks to take assets from the wealthiest, and redistribute them to the poorest. So the wealthiest pay the most, and the poorest pay the least, or nothing. That's not what happens with medicare. It's a flat rate withholding from your income. The wal-mart cashier pays the same medicare tax rate as the investment banker.

Medicare doesn't redistribute anything. It's an insurance policy. Really it's a pyramid scheme disguised as an insurance policy, but that's beside the point. What medicare is NOT, is socialist.

When the government redistributes wealth, that's socialism. When the government just runs shit, and has a monopoly on the shit you need, that's called TYRANNY.

[oskar]

It's a flat rate withholding from your income. The wal-mart cashier pays the same medicare tax rate as the investment banker.

So do they both pay the same? Do you not even understand your own words? This is very confusing.

[Poopadoop]

Socialism seeks to take assets from the wealthiest, and redistribute them to the poorest.

If you're going to make up your own definition of socialism and then provide an argument for why medicare is thus socialism, I can't help you.

So the wealthiest pay the most, and the poorest pay the least, or nothing. That's not what happens with medicare. It's a flat rate withholding from your income. The wal-mart cashier pays the same medicare tax rate as the investment banker.

Clearly you're obfuscating the difference between a 1.45% tax rate and the gross tax withheld, which is a surprising error to see given you're an accountant.

The Wal-Mart cashier with 1.45% of their income going to socialism (I mean medicare) is being taxed a much lower gross amount than the the investment banker giving 1.45% of a much higher income.

So even by your own definition of socialism (which is overly simplistic, but whatever), medicare is a socialist progarmme because wealthier people pay more gross tax into it than poorer people.

[BananaStand]

If you're going to make up your own definition of socialism and then provide an argument for why medicare is thus socialism, I can't help you..

If you're trying to say that redistribution is not the definitive pillar of socialism, then it is you who can not be helped.

Clearly you're obfuscating the difference between a 1.45% tax rate and the gross tax withheld, which is a surprising error to see given you're an accountant.

I'm not obfuscating it at all! I'm wondering how obfuscated your brain must be for you to conclude that Flat Tax = Socialism.

The Wal-Mart cashier with 1.45% of their income going to socialism (I mean medicare) is being taxed a much lower gross amount than the the investment banker giving 1.45% of a much higher income.

So? This would be socialist if the Banker's 1.45% was enough to pay for his medicare, and also subsidize someone else's. But it's not. The banker will likely never pay enough in medicare taxes to pay for his own medical care. For almost everyone this is true. The banker, and his three siblings, are all paying for their father's medical care. It's a pyramid scheme. It's insurance. Not socialism.

So even by your own definition of socialism (which is overly simplistic, but whatever), medicare is a socialist progarmme because wealthier people pay more gross tax into it than poorer people.

LOL, you say that I'm being overly simplistic, and them immediately follow it up with "wealthy pay more, so it's socialist". OMFG. Check the floor around you, I think maybe some of your IQ's fell out.

There's no redistribution from wealthy to poor. That's a definitive pillar of socialism, and it's missing from medicare. There's also no government control of the means of production. Doctors are still private entities that can choose whether or not to accept this government run insurance policy. That's pretty limp wristed socialism if the capitalist market can just say "no thanks"

Please stop pretending that the medicare that we have now, and the medicare that exists in Bernie's wet dreams, are the same thing.

[BananaStand]

OMFG

I'm still shaking my head here....

Flat Tax = Socialism. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Poop and Oskar, both of you are just sad right now.

Look guys, maybe I've got it all wrong. Is socialism really about a flat tax? Is it Steve Forbes' jerk-fantasy come true? If so, please educate me. Because if that really is the case, then you can count me among the renouncers of capitalism as of right now. Show me where the politicians currently running on socialist platforms support a flat tax rate for all citizens....and I'll be sure to vote not-Trump in 2020.

Totally serious here. Prove to me that Socialism = Flat tax and I will go to the town hall tomorrow and change my voter registration to democrat. I'll even post the video for you to stroke off to.

[BananaStand]

Check this out guys......notice how far apart the terms "socialism" and "flat tax" are.

[oskar]

Check this out guys......notice how far apart the terms "socialism" and "flat tax" are.

The last time you posted a video you thought was funny, it was of Gavin McInnes, founder of the Proud Boys. What are they so proud of? (being white) Also known for yelling nigger a lot. Now you post this, which you pulled from a website from a man who defends white nationalism and claims that negroes are to blame for... I couldn't tell what exactly, but I guess most bad things. He also echoes a lot of your viewpoints on how the US is favoring negroes over the white man, and white people are disproportionately being prejudiced against.

For someone who goes into a rage at the audacity that someone could even consider him a racist, you seem to get a lot of your information from racists.

[BananaStand]

The last time you posted a video you thought was funny, it was of Gavin McInnes, founder of the Proud Boys. What are they so proud of? (being white)

I think they're proud of western society. I think they are just a rebuttal to those who say stuff like "gender is a social construct" and "math and science are racist and patriarchal". But I admit, I don't know much about them other than a few youtube clips of them pretty much owning college snowflakes.

Also known for yelling nigger a lot.

Have not seen that clip.

Now you post this, which you pulled from a website from a man who defends white nationalism and claims that negroes are to blame for... I couldn't tell what exactly, but I guess most bad things. He also echoes a lot of your viewpoints on how the US is favoring negroes over the white man, and white people are disproportionately being prejudiced against.

That's unfortunate. However, the whole truth is, I searched"flat tax meme" on google images. Go ahead, try it, it's right there, bold yellow on the first page. Hard to miss. That's the same way I got the other two pics that I posted. I notice you're not impugning the source of those. If you think this is some kind of racist smoking gun, you must have lost some IQ's over the holiday weekend.

Also, just because someone is racist doesn't mean that all their ideas are bad. I don't renounce anything in the meme that I found on google. That seems to express my understanding quite accurately. I have no knowledge of the image's original source.

The author of that image and I agree on how to describe differences between political partisans. That's no reason to infer agreement on any other topic.

For someone who goes into a rage at the audacity that someone could even consider him a racist, you seem to get a lot of your information from racists.

Google is racist?

[oskar]

Have not seen that clip.

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/stat...50945506807809
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/s...99459310620673

[BananaStand]

[BananaStand]

So do they both pay the same? Do you not even understand your own words? This is very confusing.

medicare is a socialist progarmme because wealthier people pay more gross tax into it than poorer people.

OMFG This stuff just made my week you guys. Please please please tell me how flat tax = socialism. I'm dying to hear this. Because if this rumor is true....I can't wait to be a fucking socialist.