*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[Poopadoop]

Now let's talk about Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Somalia, Syria, Nigeria, Indonesia and most of North Africa.

Sure, then we can talk about China, N Korea, most of Africa, etc. Why aren't those people revolting?

[OngBonga]

Sure, then we can talk about China, N Korea, most of Africa, etc. Why aren't those people revolting?

What's your point here? That it's not just Muslims who tolerate oppression? That it's not just Islamic nations that are oppressive? Good job there, you're right. I have contempt for most of those, too.

We have a lot of Chinese immigrants here in the UK. I have no problem whatsoever with these guys.

[Poopadoop]

What's your point here? That it's not just Muslims who tolerate oppression? That it's not just Islamic nations that are oppressive? Good job there, you're right. I have contempt for most of those, too.

You seem to think it's easy to overthrow a gov't, and ergo any group of people who don't are just wimps. It's not and they're not.

[Jack Sawyer]

Demogoguery. Exactly what law are you citing here as the "magic pass". Can you cite what specific language in the statute that offends you?

Not citing a law, just citing the overarching thought in these situations. OMG I FEAR FOR MY LIFEZ I HAD TO KILL HIM, HE SOOO BIG

Related but unrelated anecdote: This one is a cop. "Trained' in handling of weapons and situations as his job. The vic is white. Imagine some random shmuck wanting to be an avenger or some shit getting a gun.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Related but unrelated anecdote: This one is a cop. "Trained' in handling of weapons and situations as his job. The vic is white. Imagine some random shmuck wanting to be an avenger or some shit getting a gun.

Harrowing, but I take the cop's side in that. He was perfectly clear in his instructions and the consequences of not following them.
He did not shoot on the first couple of times the guy did not follow instructions.
At the end, it's hard to see what happened in the last second or two, but when we see the guy again, he's reaching behind himself, has crawled without his hands in the air and angled his body such that he's reaching behind himself.

If he was otherwise innocent, he totally fucked up. Either way, good shooting, cop.

[Poopadoop]

Harrowing, but I take the cop's side in that. He was perfectly clear in his instructions and the consequences of not following them.
He did not shoot on the first couple of times the guy did not follow instructions.
At the end, it's hard to see what happened in the last second or two, but when we see the guy again, he's reaching behind himself, has crawled without his hands in the air and angled his body such that he's reaching behind himself.

If he was otherwise innocent, he totally fucked up. Either way, good shooting, cop.

I can't see taking the cop's side. The guy was drunk. The cop was screaming at him and the guy was crying and obviously pissing his pants afraid. He looked to me like he just lost his balance for a second and the cop pumps him full of lead? Waaaat?

Maybe don't play Simon Says with someone while you're pointing a gun at them and they're drunk and expect them to follow your instructions to the letter.

Cop needed to be calm, keep everyone else calm and not be shouting like a maniac. Of course that's going to freak someone out. My God, even cops in the comments section were saying 'wtf'.

[BananaStand]

Not citing a law, just citing the overarching thought in these situations. OMG I FEAR FOR MY LIFEZ I HAD TO KILL HIM, HE SOOO BIG

lol, "these situations"

If I challenged you to name five of "these situations", I doubt very much you could do so without using AltaVista or Webcrawler or whatever you kids use these days. And however few you could name off the top of your head are only possible because of exactly TWO public individuals making a living though racially charged pot-stirring.

[BananaStand]

Pistorious comes to mind

I don't recall Pistorious ever claiming that he was being assailed by someone larger than he is. Side note though, I think you get a little more latitude when reacting to a size disadvantage if you happen to not have legs.

Wasn't that just straight up murder anyway? Just because one time someone desperately and erroneously invoked a self-defense claim....does that mean it's no longer a legitimate claim, ever? What exactly is your point?

Also, I thought your problem was with American gun policy? Didn't this happen in some shithole African country?

What exactly are you describing when you say "these situations"

[Jack Sawyer]

I don't recall Pistorious ever claiming that he was being assailed by someone larger than he is. Side note though, I think you get a little more latitude when reacting to a size disadvantage if you happen to not have legs.

Wasn't that just straight up murder anyway? Just because one time someone desperately and erroneously invoked a self-defense claim....does that mean it's no longer a legitimate claim, ever? What exactly is your point?

Also, I thought your problem was with American gun policy?

My problem is with gun policy in general.

Spoiler alert: I'm not American. You guys can kill each other all you want.

Didn't this happen in some shithole African country?

Yeaqh, from the "here be dragons" part of the map

What exactly are you describing when you say "these situations"

People who feel "unsafe", constantly "in mortal danger", making them absolutely NEED to have a gun.

The kind who feel "naked" without a gun.

The kind who would shoot someone dead if said someone shoved him to the floor. One shove means the man's life is to be taken.

The kind who didn't get the memo that the Wild Wild West is over.

These situations.

[OngBonga]

You seem to think it's easy to overthrow a gov't, and ergo any group of people who don't are just wimps. It's not and they're not.

Of course it isn't easy. When did I say it was? But, best I can tell, there's a great many Muslim people who are happy to live under Sharia. That's what this was about, not the overthrow of governments. You simply showed me what can happen if they do stand up to their government, you simply point out that it's possible.

We've seen global riots because of cartoons. There was rioting in practically every Islamic nation. A lot of people died. Because some Danish people offended Allah. All those people, expressing their outrage. But they don't stand up to their government who oppress them with Sharia law? Why? Because they don't want to. That's what makes Iran different. Their people want change, their people want to be moderate, and engage positively with the rest of the world. And that's one reason why other Islamic nations hate them so much.

Back in the 80s, Islam was a fantasy, it was magic carpets and genies in bottles. I wish I was still a naive little kid.