*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Savy]

Actually I'd like to go to NZ and find myself a job, but they're not exactly in need of bar staff or shelf stackers. If I were a doctor, then perhaps they'd be more accepting. Fair play to them, I mean why wouldn't they want skilled and useful people and opposed unskilled and useless?

And why does the UK have a larger obligation to foreigners than NZ does to me? The obligation is equal. Zero.

Yeah and you should be able to do that just not expect anything from the place. In practice that can't happen obviously.

India, WI, etc. Places that literally fought with us in wars and were promised rights as citizens as a result lol. The wider point is that the UK should have no obligation to do anything for you either.

[OngBonga]

India, WI, etc. Places that literally fought with us in wars and were promised rights as citizens as a result lol. The wider point is that the UK should have no obligation to do anything for you either.

Ok yeah fair point with nations that made sacrifices for the UK. But still, those obligations are not unlimited. We obviously couldn't accept the entire population of India. And we're still doing it for the benefit of the UK.

[OngBonga]

Yeah and you should be able to do that

Why? That bar staff job I get, that could've gone to a local who has no choice but to look for work in his local area.

[Savy]

Why? That bar staff job I get, that could've gone to a local who has no choice but to look for work in his local area.

And if you were better at that job that's good and if you were worse well why would they hire you instead? On top of that you have had to travel to the other side ofthe world for a bog standard bar job so it's not like it's ever a net huge plus for you.

Also if you've got no money but you can still manage to get to NZ and survive long enough to get a bar job which will make you enough money to not really do much then fair play but this other person couldn't possibly move at all to get a job.

[BananaStand]

And if you were better at that job that's good

He's not. And LOL and talking about "better" in the context of unskilled labor.

and if you were worse well why would they hire you instead?

Affirmative action maybe. Or maybe he's simply willing to work for less than a local. Maybe he's only 10% worse, but costs 25% less. Funny you seem to be citing the power of free markets here, but you've applied in the most naive and least thought-through manner possible. LOL

On top of that you have had to travel to the other side of the world for a bog standard bar job so it's not like it's ever a net huge plus for you.

Again...so glib. Maybe he wants to have kids in a country where they can get free healthcare and a superior education (like America). That's not a "net huge plus"??? Like, you think that's just a wash because it's a long trip??

Honestly, you should seriously consider committing yourself to never discussing immigration policy again.

[Savy]

He's not. And LOL and talking about "better" in the context of unskilled labor.


Affirmative action maybe. Or maybe he's simply willing to work for less than a local. Maybe he's only 10% worse, but costs 25% less. Funny you seem to be citing the power of free markets here, but you've applied in the most naive and least thought-through manner possible. LOL


Again...so glib. Maybe he wants to have kids in a country where they can get free healthcare and a superior education (like America). That's not a "net huge plus"??? Like, you think that's just a wash because it's a long trip??

Honestly, you should seriously consider committing yourself to never discussing immigration policy again.

I imagine Ong would be fairly good behind a bar.

Once again what we are talking about is in the context of the country not owing him anything. It's funny that you're incapable of understanding assumptions that are pretty key for a hypothetial discussion yet use that idiocy as a way of thinking you're smarter than everyone else. So none of your arguments even make sense in context so as usual little to no imput has been added thanks to your post.

[BananaStand]

Once again what we are talking about is in the context of the country not owing him anything.

Yeah, because you're not smart enough to realize that's not even slightly realistic or relevant. I was merely trying to take the conversation somewhere that made sense.