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 Originally Posted by wufwugy
It's "the left" that is the odd one out. Marxism, fascism, socialism, communism -- those are the guys that hold totally different principles than that which encapsulates both liberalism and conservatism.
Here's an example:
Both conservatives and liberals historically thought that people should generally be free to do what they want as long as they are not hurting others. Where they disagree is on what that line of hurting others is and what "hurting others" even means. Everything from tax policy to abortion policy has a great deal of this dynamic going on.
It's different with Marxism. Under that, you're not free to do fucking anything. You're a cog in a machine. You're a part of a collective. Your duty is to the collective, which means that your duty is to the state since the state is what relegates duty to the collective.
Marxism might be really great as a religion, because maybe then it wouldn't naturally need a state and maybe it would be about people framing themselves as groups (things religions already do). Though as a political ideal, it seems to need an all-powerful state and seems to eradicate individualism and liberty.
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