Trump Is Reality TV, Mueller Is The Wire

[OngBonga]

Merely being presented with evidence and being uncomfortable with it, that alone isn't cognitive dissoance. It could be social awkardness at having to debate opinions.

[Poopadoop]

Merely being presented with evidence and being uncomfortable with it, that alone isn't cognitive dissoance. It could be social awkardness at having to debate opinions.

Sorry but you're talking complete shit here. It doesn't help your case that you're providing google/wiki definitions. I am providing the one from cognitive psychology.

CD is nothing more or less than the uncomfortable feeling that arises when one's views are contradicted by evidence. It's an unpleasant feeling so people tend to try to reduce and/or eliminate it. Everything that happens after that is a coping mechanism, not the same as cognitive dissonance itself which is no more or less than the uncomfortable feeling.

[OngBonga]

Ok so to poop the religious nut who doesn't want to debate creationism is showing congnitive dissonance.

[Poopadoop]

Ok so to poop the religious nut who doesn't want to debate creationism is showing congnitive dissonance.

They're demonstrating a coping response to cognitive dissonance. CD is the unpleasant feeling of logical inconsistency that they are trying to reduce/eliminate.

[OngBonga]

They're demonstrating a coping response to cognitive dissonance.

They might be.

CD is the unpleasant feeling of logical inconsistency that they are trying to reduce/eliminate.

Here you make my point. "logical inconsistency"... ie... contradictory views.

If they (sincerely) dismiss the evidence, there's no "logical inconsistency". The religious nut is being consistent, unless deep down he's absorbing the evidence and it is somewhat compelling.

[Poopadoop]

They might be.



Here you make my point. "logical inconsistency"... ie... contradictory views.

If they (sincerely) dismiss the evidence, there's no "logical inconsistency". The religious nut is being consistent, unless deep down he's absorbing the evidence and it is somewhat compelling.

But a person cannot hold contradictory views at the same instant in time. They can switch back and forth between views that are logically inconsistent, but whatever their last experienced view is, that's the one they can be said to hold.

The person who holds an irrational view (e.g., flat earthers for the sake of argument), who is then presented with compelling evidence their view is wrong (the earth is round), will experience CD because the evidence conflicts with their view. They might try to reduce that feeling by discounting the evidence, and that would be an example of a coping mechanism used to combat the unpleasant feeling of CD.

In terms of being coherent or not, it's not that a person is somehow trying to believe logically inconsistent views at the same time. That's impossible. Their belief is one or the other at any given moment. The logical incoherence comes when they repeatedly switch back and forth between different beliefs in the absence of compelling evidence.

E.g., If A believes 'X is true', and B comes along and says 'X is false' without providing any evidence for why X is false, then A is being incoherent if they immediately change their tune to 'ok, now i think X is false'.

[Poopadoop]

E.g., If A believes 'X is true', and B comes along and says 'X is false' without providing any evidence for why X is false, then A is being incoherent if they immediately change their tune to 'ok, now i think X is false'.

...which is pretty much what Trump is doing in his interview with O'Reilly I posted earlier, and why he is being mocked by Pakman.

[BananaStand]

...which is pretty much what Trump is doing in his interview with O'Reilly I posted earlier, and why he is being mocked by Pakman.

False. I'm actually stunned that you watched that clip and don't know what Trump's firm, non-contradictory, policy is on minimum wage.

I would say that your statement here is evidence of incompetence and poor comprehension on your part.

Now tell me, does cognitive dissonance hurt?

[wufwugy]

...which is pretty much what Trump is doing in his interview with O'Reilly I posted earlier, and why he is being mocked by Pakman.

I have a bone to pick with him, because he has a degree in economics, as do I, and he is bad at economics.

[OngBonga]

You know what? We're both right, we're just splitting hairs.

[BananaStand]

You know what? We're both right, we're just splitting hairs.

That's poop's favorite game!!